[fvc-wat-disc] Information night on Sept. 18th -- please respond ASAP

[Brian Tanguay]

I agree whole-heartedly with Derek: there is absolutely no reason to
even consider resigning from your position, Angela. These things do
happen; life intervenes.

And Derek's proposal is a good one: two FVC people at the remaining
Info Nights, just in case one of them gets waylaid.
Brian

>>> derek.kraan at gmail.com 9/20/2007 9:07 AM >>>
Hi everyone,

I categorically disagree with any call for Angela to resign. She has
done a
fantastic job so far, and this is no reason to doubt her committment to
the
campaign.

Perhaps a business card with the exec's phone numbers on it (a "phone
card"?) would help in these situations? I also agree with the idea that
two
people should be present at important speaking events, even if the
second
person doesn't stick around for the event, but is just there in case
the
primary doesn't show up.

Cheers,
Derek

2007/9/20, John Milne <jdmilne at gmail.com>:
>
> I agree with Kevin.  This even simply highlights the need to have an
> effective failsafe system in place.  Whether this means assigning
two
> speakers for every event and ensuring they have each other's phone
numbers,
> or having some sort of phone tree system in place that can be
activated when
> unexpected situations arise, or some other solution is probably more
of a
> matter for the exec to work out, but missing one presentation due to
> unavoidable circumstances is not (unless I'm misunderstanding the
> implications) a dire offense.
>
> I would go on to say that probably the only error that did happen in
this
> situation, in my opinion, is that the person Angela had to call was
campus
> security, and not another member of the FVC team.
>
> John
>
> On 9/20/07, Kevin Smith <kevedsmith at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Hi folks:
> >
> > I think we all realize that crises do come up, and sometimes
things
> > don't turn out the way we expect.  I think asking Angela to resign
is
> > blowing things way out of proportion, unless there is something
beyond
> > this incident that is brought to our attention.
> >
> > Angela has worked hard since her election in April to ensure a
> > successful campaign in Waterloo Region.  I think she should
continue
> > that work for the remaining 20 days of this campaign.  A change in
> > co-chair would be disruptive enough at this point that there would
> > have to be a very good reason for this to happen, and I don't feel
> > this is it.
> >
> > This is a good lesson, though.  We should probably be doing
important
> > events in pairs, so if one person is called away, the other can
take
> > over.
> >
> > Kevin.
> >
> > On 9/20/07, Angela Yenssen <ayenssen at rogers.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > I am sending this message to the entire discussion list
responding to
> > a
> > > query from Paul as to the events of last evening (Sept. 18th)
because
> > > everyone needs to be aware of what has happened and to cast a
vote as
> > to
> > > whether or not you want me to withdraw from the campaign in light
of
> > last
> > > night's events.
> > >
> > > On Tuesdays I work for a private company that provides geriatric
> > social work
> > > services.  Yesterday (Sept. 18th) at 3:00 p.m. I was called away
from
> > my
> > > usual assignment in Kitchener and sent to deal with a crisis
situation
> > in
> > > Aylmer.  I did not know who I could call to cover the
information
> > night if I
> > > ran into difficulty in Aylmer, so I proceeded to the work site
hoping
> > I
> > > could finish the job and return to Kitchener for the information
> > night.
> > > Unfortunately, by the time I realized the situation was far more
> > complex
> > > than I had been told initially and there was no hope in hell that
I
> > would be
> > > back to Kitchener by 7 p.m., I felt my only option was to call
Laurier
> >
> > > security and ask them to post a notice informing people the
meeting
> > was
> > > cancelled and to communicate that information to anyone who
arrived
> > because
> > > I (the person running the meeting) was detained out of town.  By
the
> > time
> > > Laurier security arrived on the scene there were about 10 people
> > gathered
> > > looking for the meeting.  Neil Dietrich, who will be speaking at
a
> > church
> > > for us next week, was there (which I did not expect) and jumped
into
> > provide
> > > some information to people.  According to Neil, none of the
message I
> > had
> > > communicated to Laurier security got through to anyone in the
meeting
> > other
> > > than that the meeting was cancelled.  Neil apparently jumped in
to
> > speak as
> > > soon as the security guard arrived to say the meeting was
cancelled.
> > > Evidently the Laurier security staff also neglected to
communicate the
> > whole
> > > story to our room booking contact at Laurier.
> > >
> > > The call to Aylmer was an extraordinary circumstance that has
never
> > happened
> > > to me before.  My line of work is very demanding but up to this
point
> > I have
> > > managed to handle all of the different duties on my plate and
keep all
> > of
> > > the balls in the air I guess because I was never called to a
crisis
> > far out
> > > of town and could reorganize any work that I needed to do within
the
> > > tri-cities to meet all my obligations.  There were a couple of
our
> > team
> > > members at the meeting last night in addition to Neil and one of
them
> > called
> > > me last night demanding an explanation for the events of the
> > evening.  The
> > > person indicated that I had brought ill repute on everyone
attached to
> > the
> > > campaign through my irresponsible conduct and I should withdraw
from
> > the
> > > campaign.  My initial reaction was that the person was acting a
little
> > > melodramatic considering that anything can happen to anyone to
disrupt
> > the
> > > best laid plans.  For example, what would have happened if I had
been
> > in a
> > > car accident or become acutely ill and hospitalized yesterday? 
Why
> > does
> > > everyone assume that if something was scheduled and it doesn't
happen
> > that
> > > some sort of nefarious or belligerent act is behind it?
> > >
> > > However, in light of the fact that this incident has also created
a
> > > firestorm with the people on whom we rely to continue to give us
free
> > > meeting space, perhaps I was too inclined to minimize the
significance
> > of my
> > > error.  My intention was to turn the information nights on Sept.
25th
> > and
> > > Oct. 2nd back to Paul in light of yesterday's events so we don't
run
> > the
> > > risk of such an incident occurring again.  I am thinking now,
though,
> > that
> > > there seems to be even more trouble over this incident, that I do
need
> > to go
> > > a step further and make the offer to the campaign team to
withdraw
> > from the
> > > campaign.  I still want to see the MMP system passed and thus
want to
> > take
> > > the course of action in the best interests of the campaign.  When
I
> > was
> > > speaking with one of our members last night, I was not certain
that a
> > new
> > > co-chair stepping in, causing a disruption and transition in
> > leadership at
> > > this point was in the best interests of the campaign.  I also
don't
> > know if
> > > Brian wants to take over everything I've been doing and chair
the
> > whole
> > > campaign himself at this point.  However, on the other hand,
perhaps
> > if the
> > > campaign team can say that the person responsible for last
night's
> > debacle
> > > is gone from the organization, then the team's sullied reputation
can
> > be
> > > restored, as my caller last night suggested.
> > >
> > > Since this organization is focused on promoting democracy, I want
to
> > make
> > > sure people have an opportunity to voice their opinions on this
> > issue.  I
> > > will respect the consensus of the group and act accordingly on
this
> > question
> > > of whether I stay or go.  I do take ownership of the fact that I
was
> > faced
> > > with a no win situation yesterday and did not choose to
prioritize
> > this
> > > campaign.  I tried to meet all of my obligations and when I
discovered
> > there
> > > was no way that I could, I made the choice to prioritize the
mental
> > health
> > > assessment for a suicidal and homicidal person that needed
completion
> > rather
> > > than this campaign.  I can't guarantee that such a situation will
not
> > happen
> > > again before the campaign is over.  I suppose this scenario is a
good
> > case
> > > in point as to why there is little political activism on the part
of
> > health
> > > care workers compared to people in other sectors (such as
teachers or
> > > lawyers), namely the unpredictable nature of the work in health
care
> > means
> > > that glitches sometimes happen in other aspects of life.  I have
an
> > > obligation I have to fulfill for the campaign tomorrow night in
> > Cambridge
> > > but I will withdraw after tomorrow night if that is the decision
of
> > the
> > > group.
> > >
> > > I do apologize for the events of yesterday.  I have appreciated
the
> > > opportunity I've had to meet and work with all of you and I wish
you
> > well
> > > with the final days of the campaign.
> > >
> > > Angela
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Paul Nijjar [mailto: paul_nijjar at yahoo.ca] 
> > > Sent: September 19, 2007 2:09 PM
> > > To: Lynn Beney
> > > Subject: Re: LSPRIG meeting last night at Faculty of Social Work
> > >
> > >
> > > --- Lynn Beney < lbeney at wlu.ca> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > > There was confusion here last night in regards to the meeting
that
> > > > you had booked for September 19, 2007 from 6:30-9:30.  A number
of
> > > > people did come expecting a meeting to be held.
> > >
> > > We did have a meeting scheduled! I was not going to be running
it,
> > > but another (very reliable) volunteer was going to do it. At
this
> > > point I have no idea what happened, but I will investigate.
> > >
> > > Oh no. I don't believe this. The fault was on our end, obviously.
I'm
> > > so sorry. I will personally make sure this does not happen
again.
> > >
> > > To answer your question: we currently have a space booked for
the
> > > next two Tuesdays: Sept 25 and Oct 2. We did cancel October 9,
but I
> > > need to tell the security guards that the room had been cancelled
for
> > > that time.
> > >
> > > - Paul
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Paul Nijjar  http://www.fairvotecanada.org/WaterlooRegion 
> > > Next Referendum Info Session: Sept 18, 7pm
> > > (Please use this Yahoo! account for future correspondence.)
> > >
> > >
> > >
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