[fvc-wat-disc] Justin's comment

Fri Apr 8 14:47:39 EDT 2016

By Googling "losers don't deserve a prize" I found a Yahoo conversation
from Feb 2013 in which Norah Chaloner asked Dave where Justin had said it.
So it was earlier than that, and we don't know the context.  And we don't
know if he repeated it later.

Ask Gerry Butts!

Eleanor
On 8 Apr 2016 11:58, <fvc-wat-disc-request at listserv.thinkers.org> wrote:

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Today's Topics:

   1. Re: The Experts Discuss AV vs. PR (Jennifer Ross)
   2. Audio of yesterday's Panel Discussion now available (Bob Jonkman)

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Jennifer Ross <2jennross at gmail.com>
To: FVC Waterloo Region Discussion <fvc-wat-disc at listserv.thinkers.org>
Cc:
Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2016 13:03:30 -0400
Subject: Re: [fvc-wat-disc] The Experts Discuss AV vs. PR
If Trudeau said that, and I expect he said something similar but not
exactly that, it was most likely during the Leadership race, and almost
guaranteed not to have been after January 2014.

But yes!  Tell your stories!!

On Thu, Apr 7, 2016 at 8:33 AM, Dave Arthur <arthurd23 at bell.net> wrote:

> Hi Sharon
> Unfortunately we need to get up to Meaford today.
> I would like to hear how the event goes, especially what advantages are
> given about AV.
> I clearly gives a huge advantage to the centrist party and does almost
> nothing for parties like the Greens.
> I have my meeting with Bardish set for the 29th.
> I’ve got 15 minutes.
> I think I’m going to tell my stories rather than go over the reasons for
> PR which she will have heard many times.
> Do you remember if Justin made the comment before the election about PR
> that “losers don’t deserve a prize”?
> Dave
>
> *From:* Sharon Sommerville <sharonsommerville at gmail.com>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, April 6, 2016 10:14 PM
> *To:* fvc-wat-disc at listserv.thinkers.org ;
> fvc-wat-announce at listserv.thinkers.org
> *Subject:* [fvc-wat-disc] The Experts Discuss AV vs. PR
>
> Hello FairVoting Friends,
>
> Tomorrow night we have the opportunity to hear two of Canada's leading
> experts on electoral systems discuss the electoral system they prefer and
> why.
>
> Join Prof. Barry Kay (Laurier) and Prof. Dennis Pilon (York) talk about PR
> vs. AV.  It will be an educational & interesting discussion as well as a
> chance to have your questions answered by experts on electoral systems. We
> start at 7 pm in the Council Chamber of Kitchener City Hall. The event is
> free.
>
> What:   A discussion of AV vs. PR by two of
> Canada's                         leading experts on electoral reform
> When:  Tomorrow night, 7 - 8: 30 pm
> Where: Kitchener City Hall
> Why:     We all need to educate ourselves on the options
>
> Here is our fabulous poster for the event:
>
> https://www.flickr.com/gp/laurelrusswurm/p1FF04
>
> Hope you can join us!
>
> Best regards,
> Sharon Sommerville
> for FVC-WR
>
>
>
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---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Bob Jonkman <bjonkman at sobac.com>
To: Fair Vote Waterloo Region Discussion <fvc-wat-disc at listserv.thinkers.org
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Cc:
Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2016 06:11:58 -0400
Subject: [fvc-wat-disc] Audio of yesterday's Panel Discussion now available
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For anyone who missed yesterday's panel discussion "Proportional
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- -- you can catch up on the audio at

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Video will take a little longer, probably until the end of the month.

- --Bob.

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