[fvc-wat-disc] Monsef on CBC The House

Sun Nov 27 23:23:33 EST 2016

Yes, we should send that to Chris Hall at the House.

Sure, Dave.  So, on Liberal.ca there is a section called Platform and you
could go during the election (and possibly still now) and vote for the
policies you particularly liked or hated.  So I made a spreadsheet with the
results and you can sort (not that easily, sadly) by the number of votes
each policy got, or you can sort by the ranking each policy got with those
votes.  For example, Guns got a ton of votes--but they were clearly split
between those who liked the policy proposed, and those who hated it.  That
policy had the lowest ranking I believe, but the second most votes.

Seven policies had more than 10,000 votes.  We came fifth in terms of
votes.  In terms of ranking among those seven popular policies, we were
number one.  We were fourth in terms of ranking among all 105 policies.

They've unmuzzled scientists.  We beat that policy.  They've given help to
families.  We beat that policy.  They've made changes to the small business
deduction.  We beat that policy.  They've allowed ex-pats to vote.  We beat
that policy.  But OUR policy is the only one we must have 35 million people
vote on, specifically, in spite of having an election where this was
campaigned on, and also in the platform of two other parties giving it a
63% support.

So are they saying they did all those other things WITHOUT the support of
Canadians?  Because, that's what it sounds like they are saying.

On Sun, Nov 27, 2016 at 11:00 PM, Dave Arthur <arthurd23 at bell.net> wrote:

> Hi Jenn
> Can you explain your spreadsheet?
> Thanks.
> Dave
>
> *From:* Jennifer Ross
> *Sent:* Sunday, November 27, 2016 7:09 PM
> *To:* Jon Bathmaker
> *Cc:* FVC Waterloo Region Discussion
> *Subject:* Re: [fvc-wat-disc] Monsef on CBC The House
>
> Sorry, didn't I say that?  www.Liberal.ca.  105 platform promises.
>
> Here's my spreadsheet.
>
> On Sun, Nov 27, 2016 at 6:10 PM, Jon Bathmaker <jon.bathmaker at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Hi Jenn,
>>
>> Let me see, I gather that 1800 ex-pats voted for extending the franchise
>> to them.  and abut 19K voted for electoral reform.   OK.  Where did the
>> numbers come from.
>>
>> Best,
>> Jon
>> *The Climate is no longer just a Crisis  . . .  it's a FREAKING EMERGENCY*
>>
>>
>> On 11/27/2016 12:25 PM, Jennifer Ross wrote:
>>
>> I must also be remembered that "We heard loud and clear from ex-pats
>> that they are watching what's happening in this country, that they still
>> have a stake here and we're extending the franchise to them"  Just as a
>> reminder, ex-pats were watching what's happening in this country to the
>> tune of 1,828 voted for that platform promise.  Electoral Reform got 15,874.
>>
>> On Sun, Nov 27, 2016 at 12:08 PM, Sharon Sommerville <
>> sharonsommerville at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks for sharing Monsef's interview Eleanor.
>>>
>>> Reading the Waterloo Region town hall report, one could see why Monsef
>>> would say that there was no consensus for change which was part of her
>>> message in this interview.  If the WR report was indicative of other MP
>>> town hall reports then we have a self fulfilling process.
>>>
>>> She stated that she heard from passionate folks supporting PR & FPTP.
>>> I have attended 4 consultation meetings: three town halls and one ERRE
>>> committee open mic meeting.  There was no strong support for FPTP at
>>> any of those meetings.  All meetings were in SW Ont. or Toronto, so that
>>> may bias the views.
>>>
>>> She stated that FVC's statement that the straw vote at the beginning of
>>> each of her town halls didn't included a vote on PR.  We have our town hall
>>> on video & I would like to review that segment of the meeting. Don't know
>>> if it is on our website yet, if not I will be in touch with Laurel to see
>>> if we can take a look at the section of the meeting. I remember the straw
>>> poll but don't recall if there was a vote on PR or if it was simply for a
>>> more general electoral system change. Does anyone else have a clear memory
>>> of the vote?
>>>
>>> One thing that she didn't confirm was the strong, clear and definitive
>>> policy that all Liberal MPs campaigned on.  That seems to be forgotten.
>>>
>>> We should write to The House to remind the Liberals of their campaign
>>> promise.
>>>
>>> Thanks again Eleanor, very interesting and a great help!
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Sharon
>>>
>>> On Sun, Nov 27, 2016 at 8:49 AM, Eleanor Grant <eleanor7000 at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> 10-minute interview with host Chris Hall, Sat Nov 26:
>>>>
>>>> http://www.cbc.ca/radio/thehouse/catherine-mckenna-on-her-gr
>>>> een-blueprint-and-dealing-with-trump-1.3868982?autoplay=true
>>>>
>>>> Segment starts at apx 22:22
>>>>
>>>> What do you think?
>>>>
>>>> Eleanor
>>>>
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