[fvc-wat-disc] Justin's Iqaluit argument re Fringe Parties gaining power to influence policy

[Donald Fraser]

thanks David ... off it goes then

On 10 February 2017 at 10:14, David dirks <daviddirks at rogers.com> wrote:

> Yes. Iqaluit
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> DAVID
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Feb 10, 2017, at 10:05 AM, STUART CHANDLER <stuchandler43 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> Nice rebuttal Donald
>
> Would the word "alleged" help here?
>
> Stu
>
> Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone on the Rogers network.
> *From: *Donald Fraser
> *Sent: *Friday, February 10, 2017 9:48 AM
> *To: *FVC Waterloo Region Discussion
> *Reply To: *FVC Waterloo Region Discussion
> *Subject: *[fvc-wat-disc] Justin's Iqaluit argument re Fringe Parties
> gaining power to influence policy
>
> Before I send this, I just need to confirm that the remark was made in
> Iqaluit ... does anybody know for sure? The article was run on CBC National
> this morning
>
> ========================
>
> Friday, February 10, 2017
>
> Prime Minister, Justin Trudeau.
>
>
>
> Hello Justin,
>
>
>
>  Your argument yesterday in Iqaluit criticizing Proportional
> Representation (PR) for allowing fringe parties to determine policy is an
> old one and easily refuted as I’m sure you must know.
>
>
>
>  Most practicing PR countries use an “Election Threshold” (ET), which is a
> minimum required percentage of the national vote that a party must receive
> before it can have representation in Parliament. The effect of ET is to
> deny representation to fringe parties whose purpose is to destabilize
> normal government procedures. In the case of Germany and New Zealand, for
> example, both of which use Mixed Member PR (MMPR … the best system for
> Canada) if a party gains local directly elected seats, they are retained
> regardless but those MPs are not permitted to decide a critical vote on an
> important issue unless the party has achieved ET.
>
>
>
>  Your use of this “straw man” argument is amateurish. Why not just admit
> that your Party enjoys its majority and anticipates more of them under
> FPTP?  This admission is at least honest if not admirable. However FPTP
> leaves Canada vulnerable to a Harper-clone-Trumpist majority, the
> possibility of which looms as a result of the candidates we observe
> competing for the Conservative leadership.
>
>
>
>
>
> Yours Truly,
>
> Donald A Fraser,
>
>
>
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