[fvc-wat-disc] New T-shirts need a snappy message

Mon Jul 24 07:21:04 EDT 2017

My vote - 13, 4, 1, 9, 12

On Sun, Jul 23, 2017 at 12:37 PM, Jennifer Ross <2jennross at gmail.com> wrote:

> Okay, we have a fantastic selection.  Let's each pick our preferred
> T-shirt, shall we?
>
> 1.  True democracy should be - fair representation for all.
>
> 2.  Want PR - don't trust a Liberal
>
> 3.  Democracy is Representation - Fair Representation - Proportional
> Representation
>
> 4.  Democracy: Fair, Proportional.
>
> 5.  Demand Representation: Fair‎ & Proportional.
>
> 6.  We want Representation: Fair‎ & Proportional.
>
> 7.  Vote to make your Vote Count
>
> 8.  Proportional is best for all voters.
>
> 9.  Vote much? - fairvote.ca
>
> 10.  Proportional Representation: No Taxation Without Representation
>
> 11.  No Taxation without Proportional Representation  Edited this one
> because we don't want to promise the moon!
>
> 12.  39=54=100?
>
> 13.  What do 92 democracies have that Canada lacks?
>
>
> Okay, now that I've done this, I want a ranked ballot because I really
> like several of them.
>
> My picks:  5, 7, 12, 13
>
> Jenn
>
>
>
> On Sat, Jul 22, 2017 at 8:55 PM, Jay Judkowitz <judkowitz at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> "Proportional Representation" on the back?
>>
>> On Jul 22, 2017 8:08 PM, "Donald Fraser" <donaldafraser at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I get the idea of a question to promote discussion ... but we reach far
>>> more people who will only read our message and never speak to us ... e.g.
>>> when we are shopping, walking, etc. ... they need to get the message
>>> without discussion.
>>>
>>> On 22 July 2017 at 18:24, Jay Judkowitz <judkowitz at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Works for me
>>>>
>>>> On Jul 22, 2017 3:37 PM, "David Dolson" <ddolson at golden.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I like it too. A variation would be to end it with "lacks", to make it
>>>>> sound like a bad thing.
>>>>>
>>>>> ‎"What do 92 democracies have that Canada lacks?"
>>>>>
>>>>> -Dave
>>>>> *From: *Sharon Sommerville
>>>>> *Sent: *Saturday, July 22, 2017 2:17 PM
>>>>> *To: *FVC Waterloo Region Discussion
>>>>> *Reply To: *FVC Waterloo Region Discussion
>>>>> *Subject: *Re: [fvc-wat-disc] New T-shirts need a snappy message
>>>>>
>>>>> Nice one Jay.
>>>>>
>>>>> S.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sat, Jul 22, 2017 at 2:12 PM, Jay Judkowitz <judkowitz at gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Sorry.  One more.  I liked the idea of a question to spur discussion.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "What do 92 democracies have that Canada does not?"
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Jul 22, 2017 2:03 PM, "Sharon Sommerville" <
>>>>>> sharonsommerville at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hello Everyone,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Below are the 14 suggestions so far, in the order in which they were
>>>>>>> received:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Your vote should count"
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "40% votes
>>>>>>> 60% seats
>>>>>>> 100% power"
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> True democracy should be
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> fair representation for all.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  "Want PR - don't trust a Liberal"
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Democracy is Representation - Fair Representation - Proportional
>>>>>>> Representation
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Democracy: Fair, Proportional.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Demand Representation: Fair‎ & Proportional.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> We want Representation: Fair‎ & Proportional.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Vote to make your Vote Count
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> vote for a candidate who supports PR in 2019
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Proportional is best for all voters.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Vote much?
>>>>>>> fairvote.ca
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Proportional Representation: No Taxation Without Representation
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "No Taxation without Proportional Representation" *   - the
>>>>>>> original suggestion didn't have the "out" in "without".
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 39=54=100?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>> ----------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> We need a way to consider these excellent suggestions. We could use
>>>>>>> a ranked ballot? :)  Send in your top 4,  we will compile them and look for
>>>>>>> a majority! :)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Other suggestions on the selection process are welcome.  The one
>>>>>>> above is just a place to start.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Also, revisions to any message are also welcome.  One thing to bear
>>>>>>> in mind is that becuase we have to order by Tuesday, we need to make our
>>>>>>> decision by Monday night.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks to everyone for their suggestions and comments, all well
>>>>>>> taken!  Hope to hear from you soon!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Kind regards,
>>>>>>> Sharon
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Fri, Jul 21, 2017 at 11:50 PM, Sharon Sommerville <
>>>>>>> sharonsommerville at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi Evan,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Rather excellent!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thank you!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Sharon
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Fri, Jul 21, 2017 at 9:07 AM, Evan Rosamond <
>>>>>>>> erosamond at worldline.ca> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The best I  thought of is in the style of my favourite cartoonist
>>>>>>>>> Sid Barron:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Vote much?
>>>>>>>>> fairvote.ca
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 7/21/2017 8:09 AM, Sharon Sommerville wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Great ideas everyone!  Enjoyed reading all of them!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The sale ends on the 25th, which is the only way we can afford to
>>>>>>>>> purchase the Tshirts.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Can we make a decision over the weekend?  How do we make a
>>>>>>>>> decision, that is the question!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Have a great day,
>>>>>>>>> Sharon
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Jul 21, 2017 at 1:40 AM, Jennifer Ross <
>>>>>>>>> 2jennross at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Heheh!
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> But its a good idea, Cathy.  Maybe we can do that at our next
>>>>>>>>>> discussion group?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Jul 21, 2017 at 1:33 AM, David Dolson <ddolson at golden.net
>>>>>>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I am brainstorming on the mailing list, which is why you are
>>>>>>>>>>> seeing so many bad ideas from me :-)
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> -Dave
>>>>>>>>>>> *From: *Cathy Scott
>>>>>>>>>>> *Sent: *Friday, July 21, 2017 3:14 AM
>>>>>>>>>>> *To: *'FVC Waterloo Region Discussion'
>>>>>>>>>>> *Reply To: *FVC Waterloo Region Discussion
>>>>>>>>>>> *Subject: *Re: [fvc-wat-disc] New T-shirts need a snappy message
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> HI, All,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I have been keeping up with everyone’s responses about the
>>>>>>>>>>> t-shirt wording and I wonder whether it would be helpful to have a
>>>>>>>>>>> ‘brainstorming’ session to come up with a catchy phrase.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I have found this method quite productive, and we have used it
>>>>>>>>>>> in the past,  where we write down everyone’s words, phrases, concepts,
>>>>>>>>>>> ideas, and use the results to focus and formulate a ‘catchy message’.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Cathy
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> *From:* fvc-wat-disc [mailto:fvc-wat-disc-bounces at l
>>>>>>>>>>> istserv.thinkers.org] *On Behalf Of *Sharon Sommerville
>>>>>>>>>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, July 19, 2017 11:10 PM
>>>>>>>>>>> *To:* fvc-wat-disc at listserv.thinkers.org
>>>>>>>>>>> *Subject:* [fvc-wat-disc] New T-shirts need a snappy message
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Hello FairVoting Friends,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> We are thinking about ordering new FVC t-shirts and we need a
>>>>>>>>>>> catchy message to put on them.  Any ideas?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> The message should express our message of fairness and equality
>>>>>>>>>>> for all voters in just a few words.  If you have any ideas or suggestions,
>>>>>>>>>>> please let us know!
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> With thanks,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Sharon
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> for FVC-WR
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
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