[fvc-wat-disc] New T-shirts need a snappy message
Jennifer Ross
2jennross at gmail.com
Mon Jul 24 21:55:26 EDT 2017
No, I like that.
Can we do the back?
On Mon, Jul 24, 2017 at 9:53 PM, Cathy Scott <cathy.scottfree at gmail.com>
wrote:
> My vote in order of preference is
>
> 1st - # 5
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> 2nd - # 13
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> 3rd - # 7
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> Cathy
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> *From:* fvc-wat-disc [mailto:fvc-wat-disc-bounces at listserv.thinkers.org] *On
> Behalf Of *Sharon Sommerville
> *Sent:* Monday, July 24, 2017 8:04 AM
> *To:* FVC Waterloo Region Discussion
> *Subject:* Re: [fvc-wat-disc] New T-shirts need a snappy message
>
>
>
> Yes, there is a second round:
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> #5 - Demand Representation: Fair & Proportional
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> #7 - Vote To Make Your Vote Count
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> #13 - Front: What do 92 democracies have that Canada lacks? Back:
> Proportional Representation
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>
>
> This one was left off the numbered list but got two votes anyway so I'm
> throwing it in on this round:
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>
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> #1a - 40% Votes
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> 60% Seats
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> 100 Power
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> Not Democracy
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> On Mon, Jul 24, 2017 at 7:57 AM, David Dolson <ddolson at golden.net> wrote:
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> Do we get to vote again?
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>
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>
>
> -Dave
>
> *From: *Sharon Sommerville
>
> *Sent: *Sunday, July 23, 2017 10:33 PM
>
> *To: *fvc-wat-disc at listserv.thinkers.org
>
> *Reply To: *FVC Waterloo Region Discussion
>
> *Subject: *Re: [fvc-wat-disc] New T-shirts need a snappy message
>
>
>
> Second Round!
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>
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> Each of these suggestions received 3 votes overall:
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>
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> #5 - Demand Representation: Fair & Proportional
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>
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> #7 - Vote To Make Your Vote Count
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>
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> #13 - Front: What do 92 democracies have that Canada lacks? Back:
> Proportional Representation
>
>
>
> This one was left off the numbered list but got two votes anyway so I'm
> throwing it in on this round:
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>
>
> #1a - 40% Votes
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> 60% Seats
>
> 100 Power
>
> Not Democracy
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>
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> Vote soon!
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>
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> Thank you everyone!
>
>
>
> Sharon
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>
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> On Sun, Jul 23, 2017 at 10:07 PM, Sharon Sommerville <
> sharonsommerville at gmail.com> wrote:
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> No, we haven't reached much a conclusion on the message, can't imagine
> doing this for the design as well.
>
>
>
> Could you choose the design, I will compile the results of the vote and
> get it to you later tonight.
>
>
>
> Sizewise, a mix of smalls, med, larges and extra larges? Maybe 4/5 of
> each? What are you thinking? I'm assuming that people will buy them, what
> are you thinking? If they are, we could ask $10 for the t's and make a
> little on them. What to you think?
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>
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>
>
> Cheers,
>
> S.
>
>
>
> On Sun, Jul 23, 2017 at 5:01 PM, Anita Nickerson <anitann88 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> Oh, this is cool. They do the work for you and you get to choose between a
> lot of designs. Want me to ask people what design they want?
>
>
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> http://www.vistaprint.ca/gallery/IB8DAAABACgBAAA=/
> fruit-of-the-loom%C2%AE-ink-printed-heavy-cotton-hd%E2%84%
> A2-long-sleeve-t-shirts.aspx?xnav=WomensTshirts_TsrButton
>
>
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> Anita
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>
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> On Sun, Jul 23, 2017 at 4:36 PM, Anita Nickerson <anitann88 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> How about I order these shirts tomorrow. I have no idea if it has a
> template where I just type in the text and they put it on the shirt in
> block letters or whether I need to design artwork. If it's the first, no
> problem. If it's the second, somehow I doubt I'll be able to make something
> that looks good for say 10 different shirts :). Will check into it later
> tonight.
>
>
>
> Anita
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: *David dirks* <daviddirks at rogers.com>
> Date: Sun, Jul 23, 2017 at 4:27 PM
> Subject: Re: [fvc-wat-disc] New T-shirts need a snappy message
>
> To: FVC Waterloo Region Discussion <fvc-wat-disc at listserv.thinkers.org>,
> Jennifer Ross <jenn at jenniferross.ca>
>
> OK.
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>
>
> # 12 w Jay's Proportional Representation on the back
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> # 7
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> On Sunday, July 23, 2017 2:56 PM, Cathy Scott <cathy.scottfree at gmail.com>
> wrote:
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> I vote for # 5 for the front of the t-shirt and # 14 for the back.
>
> Cathy
>
>
>
> *From:* fvc-wat-disc [mailto:fvc-wat-disc-bounces at listserv.thinkers.org] *On
> Behalf Of *David Dolson
> *Sent:* Sunday, July 23, 2017 2:15 PM
> *To:* Donald Fraser; Jennifer Ross; FVC Waterloo Region Discussion
> *Subject:* Re: [fvc-wat-disc] New T-shirts need a snappy message
>
>
>
> It was supposed to be
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>
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> "No Taxation *without* Proportional Representation"
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>
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> Yes, it is supposed to sound vaguely familiar from some history class.
>
>
>
> -Dave
>
> *From: *Donald Fraser
>
> *Sent: *Sunday, July 23, 2017 1:56 PM
>
> *To: *Jennifer Ross; FVC Waterloo Region Discussion
>
> *Reply To: *FVC Waterloo Region Discussion
>
> *Subject: *Re: [fvc-wat-disc] New T-shirts need a snappy message
>
>
>
> I didn't want to appear dumb but now I have to admit it ... I think the
> following refers to the objections of the 13 colonies to Mother England ...
> "No taxation without representation" ... I remember from American history
> in SS ... but I don't think the average voter would ... catchy but goes
> over the heads of too many.
>
>
>
> "No Taxation with Proportional Representation"
>
>
>
> On 23 July 2017 at 12:37, Jennifer Ross <2jennross at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Okay, we have a fantastic selection. Let's each pick our preferred
> T-shirt, shall we?
>
> 1. True democracy should be - fair representation for all.
>
> 2. Want PR - don't trust a Liberal
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> 3. Democracy is Representation - Fair Representation - Proportional
> Representation
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> 4. Democracy: Fair, Proportional.
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> 5. Demand Representation: Fair & Proportional.
>
> 6. We want Representation: Fair & Proportional.
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> 7. Vote to make your Vote Count
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> 8. Proportional is best for all voters.
>
> 9. Vote much? - fairvote.ca
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> 10. Proportional Representation: No Taxation Without Representation
>
> 11. No Taxation without Proportional Representation Edited this one
> because we don't want to promise the moon!
>
> 12. 39=54=100?
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> 13. What do 92 democracies have that Canada lacks?
>
>
>
> Okay, now that I've done this, I want a ranked ballot because I really
> like several of them.
>
> My picks: 5, 7, 12, 13
>
> Jenn
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> On Sat, Jul 22, 2017 at 8:55 PM, Jay Judkowitz <judkowitz at gmail.com>
> wrote:
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> "Proportional Representation" on the back?
>
>
>
> On Jul 22, 2017 8:08 PM, "Donald Fraser" <donaldafraser at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I get the idea of a question to promote discussion ... but we reach far
> more people who will only read our message and never speak to us ... e.g.
> when we are shopping, walking, etc. ... they need to get the message
> without discussion.
>
>
>
> On 22 July 2017 at 18:24, Jay Judkowitz <judkowitz at gmail.com> wrote:
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> Works for me
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>
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> On Jul 22, 2017 3:37 PM, "David Dolson" <ddolson at golden.net> wrote:
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> I like it too. A variation would be to end it with "lacks", to make it
> sound like a bad thing.
>
>
>
> "What do 92 democracies have that Canada lacks?"
>
>
>
> -Dave
>
> *From: *Sharon Sommerville
>
> *Sent: *Saturday, July 22, 2017 2:17 PM
>
> *To: *FVC Waterloo Region Discussion
>
> *Reply To: *FVC Waterloo Region Discussion
>
> *Subject: *Re: [fvc-wat-disc] New T-shirts need a snappy message
>
>
>
> Nice one Jay.
>
>
>
> S.
>
>
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> On Sat, Jul 22, 2017 at 2:12 PM, Jay Judkowitz <judkowitz at gmail.com>
> wrote:
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> Sorry. One more. I liked the idea of a question to spur discussion.
>
>
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> "What do 92 democracies have that Canada does not?"
>
>
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> On Jul 22, 2017 2:03 PM, "Sharon Sommerville" <sharonsommerville at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> Hello Everyone,
>
>
>
> Below are the 14 suggestions so far, in the order in which they were
> received:
>
>
>
> "Your vote should count"
>
> "40% votes
> 60% seats
> 100% power"
>
>
>
> True democracy should be
>
> fair representation for all.
>
>
>
> "Want PR - don't trust a Liberal"
>
>
>
> Democracy is Representation - Fair Representation - Proportional
> Representation
>
>
>
> Democracy: Fair, Proportional.
>
>
>
> Demand Representation: Fair & Proportional.
>
>
>
> We want Representation: Fair & Proportional.
>
>
>
> Vote to make your Vote Count
>
>
>
> vote for a candidate who supports PR in 2019
>
>
>
> Proportional is best for all voters.
>
>
>
> Vote much?
> fairvote.ca
>
>
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> Proportional Representation: No Taxation Without Representation
>
>
>
> "No Taxation without Proportional Representation" * - the original
> suggestion didn't have the "out" in "without".
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>
>
> 39=54=100?
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------
> ----------------------------------------------------------
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>
>
> We need a way to consider these excellent suggestions. We could use a
> ranked ballot? :) Send in your top 4, we will compile them and look for a
> majority! :)
>
>
>
> Other suggestions on the selection process are welcome. The one above is
> just a place to start.
>
>
>
> Also, revisions to any message are also welcome. One thing to bear in
> mind is that becuase we have to order by Tuesday, we need to make our
> decision by Monday night.
>
>
>
> Thanks to everyone for their suggestions and comments, all well taken!
> Hope to hear from you soon!
>
>
>
> Kind regards,
>
> Sharon
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> On Fri, Jul 21, 2017 at 11:50 PM, Sharon Sommerville <
> sharonsommerville at gmail.com> wrote:
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> Hi Evan,
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> Rather excellent!
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>
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> Thank you!
>
>
>
> Sharon
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>
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> On Fri, Jul 21, 2017 at 9:07 AM, Evan Rosamond <erosamond at worldline.ca>
> wrote:
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> The best I thought of is in the style of my favourite cartoonist Sid
> Barron:
>
> Vote much?
> fairvote.ca
>
>
>
> On 7/21/2017 8:09 AM, Sharon Sommerville wrote:
>
> Great ideas everyone! Enjoyed reading all of them!
>
>
>
> The sale ends on the 25th, which is the only way we can afford to purchase
> the Tshirts.
>
>
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> Can we make a decision over the weekend? How do we make a decision, that
> is the question!
>
>
>
> Have a great day,
>
> Sharon
>
>
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> On Fri, Jul 21, 2017 at 1:40 AM, Jennifer Ross <2jennross at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> Heheh!
>
> But its a good idea, Cathy. Maybe we can do that at our next discussion
> group?
>
>
>
> On Fri, Jul 21, 2017 at 1:33 AM, David Dolson <ddolson at golden.net> wrote:
>
> I am brainstorming on the mailing list, which is why you are seeing so
> many bad ideas from me :-)
>
>
>
>
>
> -Dave
>
> *From: *Cathy Scott
>
> *Sent: *Friday, July 21, 2017 3:14 AM
>
> *To: *'FVC Waterloo Region Discussion'
>
> *Reply To: *FVC Waterloo Region Discussion
>
> *Subject: *Re: [fvc-wat-disc] New T-shirts need a snappy message
>
>
>
> HI, All,
>
> I have been keeping up with everyone’s responses about the t-shirt wording
> and I wonder whether it would be helpful to have a ‘brainstorming’ session
> to come up with a catchy phrase.
>
> I have found this method quite productive, and we have used it in the
> past, where we write down everyone’s words, phrases, concepts, ideas, and
> use the results to focus and formulate a ‘catchy message’.
>
> Cathy
>
>
>
> *From:* fvc-wat-disc [mailto:fvc-wat-disc-bounces at listserv.thinkers.org] *On
> Behalf Of *Sharon Sommerville
> *Sent:* Wednesday, July 19, 2017 11:10 PM
> *To:* fvc-wat-disc at listserv.thinkers.org
> *Subject:* [fvc-wat-disc] New T-shirts need a snappy message
>
>
>
> Hello FairVoting Friends,
>
>
>
> We are thinking about ordering new FVC t-shirts and we need a catchy
> message to put on them. Any ideas?
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> The message should express our message of fairness and equality for all
> voters in just a few words. If you have any ideas or suggestions, please
> let us know!
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> With thanks,
>
> Sharon
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> for FVC-WR
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