[fvc-wat-disc] Phone convo with Bardish Chagger

Sharon Sommerville sharonsommerville at gmail.com
Sun Mar 12 22:04:57 EDT 2017


Hi Martha,

Did  you contact Minister Chagger's office about reneging on their
commitment to electoral reform?  A number of people who contacted her
office reported getting a request for their telephone number so she could
speak with them.

Totally agree that we need to keep the pressure up.

Tonight, Laurel Russwurm released this video of Bardish's answers at the
Sept. '15, Waterloo All Candidates Meeting on electoral reform.  Bardish
makes her commitment to electoral reform very clear, speaks of the support
for electoral reform she is hearing when knocking on doors and speaks of
the commitment by the LPC to ending FPTP.  It is only 8 minutes long and
worth the time.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=abUOn9pi5Lc&t=16s

If folks could post this on their Facebook page, tweet it out, with
questions like: hey, what happened?, it would help keep the pressure up!

With thanks,
Sharon



On Sun, Mar 12, 2017 at 9:38 PM, Martha Lauzon <mmlauzon at uwaterloo.ca>
wrote:

> Hi everyone,
>
> Thanks for your perspective. My impression from my chat with Bardish today
> was that I was mostly being talked over, and that she only listened when
> she wanted specific info. For example, she pressed me for which system of
> PR I was personally in favour of, which I declined to answer, saying that
> while I did have a  favourite, I'd be happy with anything sufficiently
> proportional.
>
> If she's trying to smooth ruffled feathers, it's not working on mine.
>
> I'm not sure why I was chosen for a phone chat today since it doesn't
> sound like anyone else got one. I was taken a bit on my heels not expecting
> anything like that, so now if she calls anyone else, you'll at least have a
> heads up to know it's coming.
>
> She mentioned all the other supposed fine work the government is doing to
> improve democracy, including this discussion paper she released on Friday:
> https://www.canada.ca/en/leader-government-house-commons/services/reform-
> standing-orders-house-commons/2017/march.html. I skimmed it and didn't
> see anything radical, either good or bad.
>
> I find it very disturbing that she might be making things up to back her
> points up with. This is precisely the sort of BS that the Liberals ran
> against in the last election.
>
> I think we need to keep the pressure on.
>
> Cheers,
> Martha
>
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>    2. Re: Chagger tweets (fvc-wat-disc Digest, Vol 96,  Issue 10)
>       (Sharon Sommerville)
>    3. Re: Phone convo with Bardish Chagger (John Cooper)
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> Date: Sun, 12 Mar 2017 18:58:21 -0400
> From: Anita Nickerson <anitann88 at gmail.com>
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> When Harper was elected in 2011 he said he'd govern for all Canadians.
>
> I think Trump just said he'd be President for all Americans.
>
> I think we know what that means by now.
>
> The way to show you will govern for all Canadians is to give an effective
> vote to all Canadians.
>
> Anita
>
> On Sun, Mar 12, 2017 at 6:50 PM, John Cooper <johnco at golden.net> wrote:
>
> > Oh, I am not surprised by any of her comments. As a long
> > time Liberal (Telegdi's assistant) and Cabinet member, she's
> > not going to go against the decision of the cabinet and
> > party!
> > For a few years I have known her through a volunteer
> > organization and never impressed me as being intelligent or
> > ethical.
> >
> > The statement about "govern for all Canadians" is total BS.
> > Isn't that what they said during the election and thus the
> > need for eliminating FPTP?
> >
> > Thanks for sharing this!
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: fvc-wat-disc
> > [mailto:fvc-wat-disc-bounces at listserv.thinkers.org] On
> > Behalf Of Martha Lauzon
> > Sent: March-12-17 4:38 PM
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> > Subject: [fvc-wat-disc] Phone convo with Bardish Chagger
> >
> > Hi all,
> >
> > I don't write in much here, just tend to lurk (and take
> > action where appropriate--e.g., pestering Bardish)
> >
> > Bardish Chagger just called me to chat about electoral
> > reform. A lot of what she was saying was basically talking
> > points, i.e., we need to govern for all Canadians, not just
> > people like you & me who are knowledgeable. Well, yes, but
> > if you see a problem with a lack of knowledge, perhaps the
> > government should launch an education campaign? She claims
> > that's what the new bill C33 does, which I was skeptical
> > about, but since I haven't read the bill, I wasn't able to
> > speak to the point. I did mention the new Local PR
> > initiative taking off in Guelph, whose name escaped me on
> > the phone, but which turns up with a quick Google search.
> > She said she would look into it, and just in case she gets
> > stuck, I'm about to send her a link. Because I'm helpful
> > like that.
> >
> > I'm concerned because she says that many constituents
> > approached her after the town halls, saying that they had
> > felt that FVC folks were very dismissive of opinions that
> > run counter to ours, and that instead of being brought in to
> > the conversation, they felt driven away. Assuming that she's
> > not making this up, perhaps this is something we could work
> > on, to be more welcoming and information-dispensing, and a
> > little less judgy. Many of us have been working on this for
> > years and years, and it can be easy to get impatient with
> > people who are just hearing about PR for the first time,
> > especially if they don't see the light right out of the
> > gate.
> >
> > She also claimed that the Liberals had conducted a poll, and
> > while most people they talked to advocated reform, once they
> > asked people what system they preferred, FPTP came out the
> > winner. I asked her if this survey and its results were
> > public, because I'd LOVE to see the actual questions that
> > were asked, but she dodged that one.
> >
> > She also had the nerve to champion the mydemocracy.ca
> > survey. I may be reading more into her explanation than she
> > intended, but what I heard was that they deliberately didn't
> > ask any questions related to electoral reform because people
> > aren't educated. I tried to explain to her that that was BS
> > because they could have constructed questions that addressed
> > PR without using any of the PR jargon, but she stuck to her
> > guns that what they really cared about was people's values
> > (and "hard working people everywhere").
> >
> > So, all in all, a little frustrating. She insisted several
> > times that she herself was committed to electoral reform but
> > now that they're governing for all Canadians they need to
> > set personal preferences aside in favour of the greater good
> > yada yada yada. I *am* impressed, because this is the first
> > time in my 40-odd years that my MP has chosen to call me to
> > address issues that I've contacted them about. Usually, I'm
> > doing well with a polite written PFO.
> >
> > Y'all may be receiving your own phone calls soon.
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Martha
> >
> >
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> > >    2. Re: been monitoring Chagger-Tweet (Donald Fraser)
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> > >
> > > ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> > > From: Donald Fraser <donaldafraser at gmail.com>
> > > To: FVC Waterloo Region Discussion
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> > > Cc:
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> > > Date: Sat, 11 Mar 2017 17:45:35 -0500
> > > Subject: [fvc-wat-disc] been monitoring Chagger-Tweet not
> > much
> > > substance ... mostly meet & greets ... social events ...
> > so far
> > > nothing about which I could tell her "it would go better
> > with PR". (I
> > > have a lot better luck with Trump-Tweet ... lots of
> > ammunition there!)
> > >
> > > cheers,
> > > Don
> > >
> > >
> > > ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> > > From: Donald Fraser <donaldafraser at gmail.com>
> > > To: FVC Waterloo Region Discussion
> > > <fvc-wat-disc at listserv.thinkers.org>
> > > Cc:
> > > Bcc:
> > > Date: Sat, 11 Mar 2017 17:58:48 -0500
> > > Subject: Re: [fvc-wat-disc] been monitoring Chagger-Tweet
> > NO sooner
> > > did I speak when she gave me an opportunity!
> > >
> > > On 11 March 2017 at 17:45, Donald Fraser
> > <donaldafraser at gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > >> not much substance ... mostly meet & greets ... social
> > events ... so
> > >> far nothing about which I could tell her "it would go
> > better with
> > >> PR". (I have a lot better luck with Trump-Tweet ... lots
> > of
> > >> ammunition there!)
> > >>
> > >> cheers,
> > >> Don
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> > > From: Jon Bathmaker <jon.bathmaker at gmail.com>
> > > To: fvc-wat-disc at listserv.thinkers.org
> > > Cc:
> > > Bcc:
> > > Date: Sat, 11 Mar 2017 18:13:02 -0500
> > > Subject: Re: [fvc-wat-disc] been monitoring Chagger-Tweet
> > >
> > > Good work Don!
> > >
> > > Best,
> > > Jon
> > > On 3/11/2017 5:58 PM, Donald Fraser wrote:
> > >
> > > NO sooner did I speak when she gave me an opportunity!
> > >
> > > On 11 March 2017 at 17:45, Donald Fraser
> > <donaldafraser at gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > >> not much substance ... mostly meet & greets ... social
> > events ... so
> > >> far nothing about which I could tell her "it would go
> > better with
> > >> PR". (I have a lot better luck with Trump-Tweet ... lots
> > of
> > >> ammunition there!)
> > >>
> > >> cheers,
> > >> Don
> > >>
> > >
> > >
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> Excellent work, Donald.  Appreciate your good efforts.
>
> S.
>
> On Sat, Mar 11, 2017 at 9:31 PM, Eleanor Grant <eleanor7000 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
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> >>    1. been monitoring Chagger-Tweet (Donald Fraser)
> >>    2. Re: been monitoring Chagger-Tweet (Donald Fraser)
> >>    3. Re: been monitoring Chagger-Tweet (Jon Bathmaker)
> >>
> >>
> >> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> >> From: Donald Fraser <donaldafraser at gmail.com>
> >> To: FVC Waterloo Region Discussion <fvc-wat-disc at listserv.thinkers.org>
> >> Cc:
> >> Bcc:
> >> Date: Sat, 11 Mar 2017 17:45:35 -0500
> >> Subject: [fvc-wat-disc] been monitoring Chagger-Tweet
> >> not much substance ... mostly meet & greets ... social events ... so far
> >> nothing about which I could tell her "it would go better with PR". (I
> have
> >> a lot better luck with Trump-Tweet ... lots of ammunition there!)
> >>
> >> cheers,
> >> Don
> >>
> >>
> >> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> >> From: Donald Fraser <donaldafraser at gmail.com>
> >> To: FVC Waterloo Region Discussion <fvc-wat-disc at listserv.thinkers.org>
> >> Cc:
> >> Bcc:
> >> Date: Sat, 11 Mar 2017 17:58:48 -0500
> >> Subject: Re: [fvc-wat-disc] been monitoring Chagger-Tweet
> >> NO sooner did I speak when she gave me an opportunity!
> >>
> >> On 11 March 2017 at 17:45, Donald Fraser <donaldafraser at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>
> >>> not much substance ... mostly meet & greets ... social events ... so
> far
> >>> nothing about which I could tell her "it would go better with PR". (I
> have
> >>> a lot better luck with Trump-Tweet ... lots of ammunition there!)
> >>>
> >>> cheers,
> >>> Don
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> >> From: Jon Bathmaker <jon.bathmaker at gmail.com>
> >> To: fvc-wat-disc at listserv.thinkers.org
> >> Cc:
> >> Bcc:
> >> Date: Sat, 11 Mar 2017 18:13:02 -0500
> >> Subject: Re: [fvc-wat-disc] been monitoring Chagger-Tweet
> >>
> >> Good work Don!
> >>
> >> Best,
> >> Jon
> >> On 3/11/2017 5:58 PM, Donald Fraser wrote:
> >>
> >> NO sooner did I speak when she gave me an opportunity!
> >>
> >> On 11 March 2017 at 17:45, Donald Fraser <donaldafraser at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>
> >>> not much substance ... mostly meet & greets ... social events ... so
> far
> >>> nothing about which I could tell her "it would go better with PR". (I
> have
> >>> a lot better luck with Trump-Tweet ... lots of ammunition there!)
> >>>
> >>> cheers,
> >>> Don
> >>>
> >>
> >>
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> From: "John Cooper" <johnco at golden.net>
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> Excellent comments, Sharon!
>
>
>
> ?Bardish is a very smooth talker and when needed, she makes stuff up as
> she goes depending on what she thinks the person in front of her needs to
> hear.  ?
>
>
>
> Yes she does!
>
> Several years ago, at a Labor Day picnic she told me that ?We need more
> New Democrats elected?.
>
>
>
> ?She has recently taken a strip off some people?..?
>
> The first time we met, she did that to me! And she was totally ?out to
> lunch? with the comment she made.
>
>
>
> Do not believe anything she says and do not trust her.
>
>
>
> From: fvc-wat-disc [mailto:fvc-wat-disc-bounces at listserv.thinkers.org] On
> Behalf Of Sharon Sommerville
> Sent: March-12-17 6:58 PM
> To: FVC Waterloo Region Discussion
> Subject: Re: [fvc-wat-disc] Phone convo with Bardish Chagger
>
>
>
> Hi Martha,
>
>
>
> Great to hear about your conversation with Bardish.  Thanks for letting us
> know about it. It is always interesting to hear what Liberal MPs are saying
> to justify breaking an important promise about democracy.
>
>
>
> The week before last, 7 people met with Bardish at her office, generally
> they reported similar conversations to the one that you had with her.  She
> wants you to think she cares about you and what you think, mainly she is
> smoothing ruffled feathers hoping that you will support her re-election in
> 2019.  Bardish supports electoral reform, what she doesn't say is that she
> supports Alternative Vote which for PR supporters is as good as no change.
> Bardish is a very smooth talker and when needed, she makes stuff up as she
> goes depending on what she thinks the person in front of her needs to
> hear.  Such as the comments about FVC being dismissive toward people who
> don't share our point of view. I can't speak for every PR supporter and
> every conversation anyone has ever had but I can confidently say that any
> conversation at a FVC information table or information evening is
> respectful.  That is just more made up stuff like when she told a PR
> supporter that she thought that FVC educational material was way over the
> heads of the average Cdn. or that the government had additional information
> that we don't have that they used to make the decision on the direction of
> electoral reform etc..  She has recently taken a strip off some people.
> When she knows the talking points aren't going to work, she goes on the
> offense and is quite offensive.  Glad that you didn't get that treatment.
>
>
>
> It would be great if Bardish called me, I would respect her for that but
> it has been over 5 weeks since the announcement and no call.... not
> expecting one at this point! :)
>
>
>
> Thanks again Martha, appreciate your perspective.
>
>
>
> All the best,
>
> Sharon
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sun, Mar 12, 2017 at 4:37 PM, Martha Lauzon <mmlauzon at uwaterloo.ca>
> wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> I don't write in much here, just tend to lurk (and take action where
> appropriate--e.g., pestering Bardish)
>
> Bardish Chagger just called me to chat about electoral reform. A lot of
> what she was saying was basically talking points, i.e., we need to govern
> for all Canadians, not just people like you & me who are knowledgeable.
> Well, yes, but if you see a problem with a lack of knowledge, perhaps the
> government should launch an education campaign? She claims that's what the
> new bill C33 does, which I was skeptical about, but since I haven't read
> the bill, I wasn't able to speak to the point. I did mention the new Local
> PR initiative taking off in Guelph, whose name escaped me on the phone, but
> which turns up with a quick Google search. She said she would look into it,
> and just in case she gets stuck, I'm about to send her a link. Because I'm
> helpful like that.
>
> I'm concerned because she says that many constituents approached her after
> the town halls, saying that they had felt that FVC folks were very
> dismissive of opinions that run counter to ours, and that instead of being
> brought in to the conversation, they felt driven away. Assuming that she's
> not making this up, perhaps this is something we could work on, to be more
> welcoming and information-dispensing, and a little less judgy. Many of us
> have been working on this for years and years, and it can be easy to get
> impatient with people who are just hearing about PR for the first time,
> especially if they don't see the light right out of the gate.
>
> She also claimed that the Liberals had conducted a poll, and while most
> people they talked to advocated reform, once they asked people what system
> they preferred, FPTP came out the winner. I asked her if this survey and
> its results were public, because I'd LOVE to see the actual questions that
> were asked, but she dodged that one.
>
> She also had the nerve to champion the mydemocracy.ca survey. I may be
> reading more into her explanation than she intended, but what I heard was
> that they deliberately didn't ask any questions related to electoral reform
> because people aren't educated. I tried to explain to her that that was BS
> because they could have constructed questions that addressed PR without
> using any of the PR jargon, but she stuck to her guns that what they really
> cared about was people's values (and "hard working people everywhere").
>
> So, all in all, a little frustrating. She insisted several times that she
> herself was committed to electoral reform but now that they're governing
> for all Canadians they need to set personal preferences aside in favour of
> the greater good yada yada yada. I *am* impressed, because this is the
> first time in my 40-odd years that my MP has chosen to call me to address
> issues that I've contacted them about. Usually, I'm doing well with a
> polite written PFO.
>
> Y'all may be receiving your own phone calls soon.
>
> Cheers,
> Martha
>
>
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>    1. Re: been monitoring Chagger-Tweet (STUART CHANDLER)
>    2. Re: Chagger tweets (fvc-wat-disc Digest, Vol 96,  Issue 10)
>       (Eleanor Grant)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Sat, 11 Mar 2017 19:02:06 -0500
> From: STUART CHANDLER <stuchandler43 at gmail.com>
> To: Donald Fraser <fvc-wat-disc at listserv.thinkers.org>, FVC Waterloo
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> From: Eleanor Grant <eleanor7000 at gmail.com>
> To: fvc-wat-disc at listserv.thinkers.org
> Subject: Re: [fvc-wat-disc] Chagger tweets (fvc-wat-disc Digest, Vol
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> Donald, what's your Twitter handle?
> Follow me @eleanor70001 .
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> >    1. been monitoring Chagger-Tweet (Donald Fraser)
> >    2. Re: been monitoring Chagger-Tweet (Donald Fraser)
> >    3. Re: been monitoring Chagger-Tweet (Jon Bathmaker)
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> > ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> > From: Donald Fraser <donaldafraser at gmail.com>
> > To: FVC Waterloo Region Discussion <fvc-wat-disc at listserv.thinkers.org>
> > Cc:
> > Bcc:
> > Date: Sat, 11 Mar 2017 17:45:35 -0500
> > Subject: [fvc-wat-disc] been monitoring Chagger-Tweet
> > not much substance ... mostly meet & greets ... social events ... so far
> > nothing about which I could tell her "it would go better with PR". (I
> have
> > a lot better luck with Trump-Tweet ... lots of ammunition there!)
> >
> > cheers,
> > Don
> >
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> > ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> > From: Donald Fraser <donaldafraser at gmail.com>
> > To: FVC Waterloo Region Discussion <fvc-wat-disc at listserv.thinkers.org>
> > Cc:
> > Bcc:
> > Date: Sat, 11 Mar 2017 17:58:48 -0500
> > Subject: Re: [fvc-wat-disc] been monitoring Chagger-Tweet
> > NO sooner did I speak when she gave me an opportunity!
> >
> > On 11 March 2017 at 17:45, Donald Fraser <donaldafraser at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> >> not much substance ... mostly meet & greets ... social events ... so far
> >> nothing about which I could tell her "it would go better with PR". (I
> have
> >> a lot better luck with Trump-Tweet ... lots of ammunition there!)
> >>
> >> cheers,
> >> Don
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> > ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> > From: Jon Bathmaker <jon.bathmaker at gmail.com>
> > To: fvc-wat-disc at listserv.thinkers.org
> > Cc:
> > Bcc:
> > Date: Sat, 11 Mar 2017 18:13:02 -0500
> > Subject: Re: [fvc-wat-disc] been monitoring Chagger-Tweet
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> > Good work Don!
> >
> > Best,
> > Jon
> > On 3/11/2017 5:58 PM, Donald Fraser wrote:
> >
> > NO sooner did I speak when she gave me an opportunity!
> >
> > On 11 March 2017 at 17:45, Donald Fraser <donaldafraser at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> >> not much substance ... mostly meet & greets ... social events ... so far
> >> nothing about which I could tell her "it would go better with PR". (I
> have
> >> a lot better luck with Trump-Tweet ... lots of ammunition there!)
> >>
> >> cheers,
> >> Don
> >>
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