[fvc-wat-disc] Catherine Fife

[Jonathan Cassels]

Hi Cory,
Fair Vote Canada is a multi-partisan group, and our efforts include work to
convince every party that proportional representation is best for Canada
and should be brought about as soon as possible. Sometimes specific efforts
are directed at a single party, because an opportunity to make progress
with a single party presents itself, but our overall strategy is not party
specific.

Some of the concerns you've expressed are very valid, and they're all
things which we consider when developing our strategy. If you'd like to
discuss our recent NDP specific efforts, I'd be happy to meet for a coffee
and discuss them. If you'd like to discuss the overall strategy of our
chapter or FVC as a whole, I'm sure that a member of the executive would be
happy to do the same. However, this probably isn't the best venue to vent
specific frustrations about specific parties.

Let me know if you'd like to meet some time.

Thanks,
Jonathan Cassels

On Mon, 26 Aug 2019 at 15:35, Jennifer Ross <2jennross at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Cory.  I do not disagree with you.
>
> That said, it is also very true that one political party can't do this
> unilaterally.  We need at least two parties--and ideally a lot of MPs/MPPs
> in general across party lines--to have a chance at a PR system that can
> stand the test of time.  Certainly was more hopeful with three parties.
>
> The last thing our movement needs is to beat up on the 'other'.  Not only
> is it playing right into First-Past-the-Posts hands, it makes it more
> difficult to have the legislature we need to have.  The more vicious the
> attacks, you know the more closely aligned the other party is to the
> attacker's.  In this way we get down to a two-party system, which of course
> is one of the goals of FPTP.
>
> Jenn
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> No other Western democratic country concentrates as much political power in
> the hands of one person as Canada does with her Prime Minister.
>
>
> On Mon, Aug 26, 2019 at 3:18 PM Cory Young <coryyoung at outlook.com> wrote:
>
>> Hello everyone,
>>
>> My name is Cory, I follow the group and have donated in the past.
>>
>> I prefer to keep comments to myself but I need to speak on the momentum
>> of the NDP.
>>
>> Provincially, Andrea Horwath has been in her role far to long without
>> much progress and has stagnated in the poles.  It’s no wonder we’ve been
>> relegated to vote Liberal/Conservative, back and forth like a tennis match.
>>
>> Federally is no better.  Mr Singh has actually back slid the party down
>> to fourth, obscurity in my opinion and irrelevant.  Which brings me to this
>> opinion.  People in elected office have promised a lot and rarely
>> delivered.  I’ve been of the voting age since 88’ and my family has
>> traditionally voted NDP.  I’m originally from Northern Ontario (Sault Ste
>> Marie Algoma) in a swing riding.  I’ve heard it all before.  Ms. Fife will
>> say anything to appease her audience so she can keep her job, period.
>>
>> There’s no intention of the major parties to do PR of any form because if
>> they win, it usually means majority power.  They don’t want to give that
>> possibility up and gamble instead of working in a coalition of thoughts and
>> ideas for the betterment of the province and the country.
>>
>> After 25 years of voting NDP and strategic at times when necessary I’ve
>> come to one conclusion.  A younger generation needs to step in and
>> fundamentally change how governments work.  This style of democracy isn’t
>> working because it still centralizes around one person at the end of the
>> day.
>>
>> How’s Ford been working out for ya?!  Trudeau?  Even better right?!  Done
>> with the empty promises?  The rash decisions and wasted taxpayer money?
>> The constant fight back and forth, who can be better with partisan
>> politics... I’m getting a head ache!!!
>>
>> It’s time to move forward with a vision and a plan!  Don’t look left.
>> Don’t look right.  Look Forward, Do Today, Be Now!
>>
>> If you’ve earned the right to drive a car then I believe you should be
>> allowed to vote!  Lower the age immediately!  Young people are more
>> informed than you think and want to be apart of the process if given the
>> chance and taken seriously.  Getting more young people in this group is
>> essential in achieving our goal.  So instead of wasting time talking to a
>> wall, try engaging young people in their environment.  Focus on issues that
>> can tie into FVC.  School visits, libraries and shopping centres are places
>> to start.  The summer festivals are great and should still continue, expand.
>>
>> You’re seeing a momentum shift to ‘Green’ and it’s for a reason.  I’ve
>> been voting this way because their the only party that wants to collaborate
>> with others.
>>
>> Todays generation have started a Green’ movement globally because their
>> world is being slowly taken away from them.  The animal world on land and
>> in the oceans is dying.  The world is on fire and nothing will be done
>> unless huge fundamental change happens.  It’s hard work adults don’t want
>> to do or are unwilling.  It all gets pushed on to the next generation.
>> When will the buck stop?
>>
>> Does anyone know when the Mars colony will be ready because I’d be outta
>> here if given the choice.
>>
>> Thank you for your time!
>> Cory
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