[fvc-wat-disc] monthly meeting next Thursday
Cathy Scott
cathy.scottfree at gmail.com
Sat Aug 1 14:24:46 EDT 2020
Hi, All,
I am sooo sorry to all of you who tried to get into our meeting on Thursday
evening.
I completely forgot about the meeting and didn't think of it till this
morning.
Should we schedule the meeting for next Thursday, Aug. 6th?
Cathy
On Thu, Jul 30, 2020 at 7:01 PM Peter Croves <petercroves at gmail.com> wrote:
> is meeting on?. i go to the link and nothing happens and i go to zoom,
> there is no meeting listed
>
> On Thu, Jul 23, 2020 at 10:19 PM Peter Croves <petercroves at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> noted, i should be on hand for meeting
>>
>> On Thu, Jul 23, 2020 at 10:15 PM Jennifer Ross <2jennross at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Cathy. Meeting sounds great!
>>>
>>> Unfortunately, there's a Green debate at that time and I already said I
>>> was going to it.
>>>
>>> Jenn
>>> Bookkeeping Services
>>> 519-501-2736
>>> No other Western democratic country concentrates as much political power in
>>> the hands of one person as Canada does with her Prime Minister.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jul 23, 2020 at 10:11 PM Cathy Scott <cathy.scottfree at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi, All,
>>>> Next Thursday, July 30 is our next regular meeting. The link is
>>>> below. Please note that the meeting will start at 7:00, which is our usual
>>>> time. I scheduled the start time on Zoom for 6:30 so I can open the
>>>> meeting a little early, so we don't miss anyone.
>>>>
>>>> The discussion topic on the agenda is:
>>>> 'Selecting replacement candidates when an elected member cannot fulfil
>>>> his/her term'
>>>> *Please advise of any other content for the agenda.*
>>>>
>>>> *Also, here is my synopsis of the Zoom presentation (July 15th),
>>>> called 'Catching the Deliberative Wave'. (I think others of our group also
>>>> attended this), *
>>>> * This was the launch of the OECD's report on 'Innovative Citizen
>>>> Participation and New Democratic Institutions'. The report was a study of
>>>> the use of deliberative processes (variously called, 'reference panels',
>>>> 'citizens' assemblies', 'citizens' juries', 'planning cells') which have
>>>> been used increasingly worldwide, since the 1980s, to engage citizens in
>>>> developing informed recommendations on an issue, which governing
>>>> authorities then use to develop policies. *
>>>>
>>>> *Claudian Chwalisz, one of the authors of the report, presented a
>>>> summary of the report:*
>>>>
>>>> - *the deliberative process is commissioned by a public authority
>>>> and the deliberating group is randomly selected, and demographically
>>>> stratified by gender, age, geographic location, economic status, etc.,*
>>>> - *the study included 289 cases of deliberative process worldwide,
>>>> 40 of which were in Canada, at all levels of government*
>>>> - *types of issues that were addressed included values-driven
>>>> dilemnas, long-term problems, etc. See the graphic in the report, attached
>>>> below.*
>>>> - *criteria for a successful process included random/balanced
>>>> selection of members of the group, sufficient time for the process, clear
>>>> and specific definition of the issue, provision of comprehensive
>>>> information to the group. THe report has a graphic which shows the
>>>> complete criteria.*
>>>> - *benefits of a deliberative process:*
>>>> - *better policy outcomes*
>>>> - *greater legitimacy - politicians can say their policies are
>>>> based on citizens' informed judgements, rather than 'opinions' gathered
>>>> through conventional means of gathering citizens' feedback, such as
>>>> townhalls, surveys, etc.*
>>>> - *enhances public trust*
>>>> - *signals civic respect and empowers citizens*
>>>> - *strengthens integrity of governing bodies*
>>>> - *helps counteract polarization and disinformation*
>>>> - *discussion of reasons and methods of embedding public
>>>> deliberation as an institution, as has been done in some countries, such as
>>>> France.*
>>>> - *12 different models of deliberative processes are described in
>>>> the report*
>>>>
>>>> *Claudia's summary was followed by a panel discussion by *
>>>>
>>>> - *Peter McLeod, from MASS LBP, an organization which designs and
>>>> conducts deliberative processes for governing authorities, corporations,
>>>> etc. He pointed out that 1400 Canadians have been involved in
>>>> approximately 40 deliberative processes in Canada. Participants gain a
>>>> better understanding of the complexity of an issue, and greater empathy for
>>>> other points of view. Citizens have an opportunity to engage meaningfully
>>>> in decision-making, promoting 'inclusive governance', in democracy . These
>>>> opportunities improve citizens' 'democratic fitness', by sharing in the
>>>> privilege to speak for others *
>>>> - *Leslie Woo, from Metrolinx, the corporation that is planning and
>>>> building transit expansion in the GTA and surrounding areas. Metrolinx
>>>> has worked with MASS LBP to gather information from citizens, in order to
>>>> plan for the transit needs in the GTA. She pointed out that the
>>>> deliberative process concept needs champions who believe in that better
>>>> policies result, and who are not afraid of the outcome of a deliberative
>>>> process, who can let go of control of the outcome. *
>>>> - *Karen Fuller, who is on the 'Open Government Team', which is the
>>>> outreach and engagement team of the federal government. SHe pointed out
>>>> that citizen deliberation is important to policy-makers who are looking for
>>>> tools to help make complex decisions; that it is important
>>>> that people believe in what the government is doing. Deliberative
>>>> processes have not been widely used in government - somewhat by Health
>>>> Canada. Her team's challenges are to promote this concept within the
>>>> government, and to move the findings of the OECD report into government
>>>> practice, by briefing senior management; justifying the concept of
>>>> deliberative process, to garner support for implementing it. See chapter
>>>> 3 of the report regarding increasing trends toward deliberative process,
>>>> and chapter 5 regarding principles. She finds this information useful in
>>>> briefing public servants, since they are inclined to want to ground things
>>>> in tenets and principles.*
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *I am attaching the 'Highlights' of the OECD report - see below. (You
>>>> can also see the whole report, by Googling 'United Nations Democracy Fund',
>>>> but the whole report is 240 pages, or so, and the 'Highlights' document is
>>>> about 48 pages, which is long enough for me!).*
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Here is the link to our meeting next Thursday.
>>>>
>>>> Topic: monthly discussion group meeting
>>>> Time: Jul 30, 2020 06:30 PM Eastern Time (US and Canada)
>>>>
>>>> Join Zoom Meeting
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> https://us02web.zoom.us/j/85093016919?pwd=S1JQcTVWYzZMMXVyS0xBaVlSbG5Bdz09
>>>>
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