[fvc-wat-disc] monthly meeting next Thursday
Mary Jackes
mkj at bell.net
Sat Aug 1 15:47:44 EDT 2020
i didn't remember until the meeting was almost half way through. It was
obviously a forgetful night.
On 2020-08-01 2:24 p.m., Cathy Scott wrote:
> Hi, All,
> I am sooo sorry to all of you who tried to get into our meeting on
> Thursday evening.
> I completely forgot about the meeting and didn't think of it till this
> morning.
> Should we schedule the meeting for next Thursday, Aug. 6th?
> Cathy
>
> On Thu, Jul 30, 2020 at 7:01 PM Peter Croves <petercroves at gmail.com
> <mailto:petercroves at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> is meeting on?. i go to the link and nothing happens and i go to
> zoom, there is no meeting listed
>
> On Thu, Jul 23, 2020 at 10:19 PM Peter Croves
> <petercroves at gmail.com <mailto:petercroves at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> noted, i should be on hand for meeting
>
> On Thu, Jul 23, 2020 at 10:15 PM Jennifer Ross
> <2jennross at gmail.com <mailto:2jennross at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> Hi Cathy. Meeting sounds great!
>
> Unfortunately, there's a Green debate at that time and I
> already said I was going to it.
>
> Jenn
> Bookkeeping Services
> 519-501-2736
> No other Western democratic country concentrates as much
> political power in the hands of one person as Canada does
> with her Prime Minister.
>
>
> On Thu, Jul 23, 2020 at 10:11 PM Cathy Scott
> <cathy.scottfree at gmail.com
> <mailto:cathy.scottfree at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> Hi, All,
> Next Thursday, July 30 is our next regular meeting.
> The link is below. Please note that the meeting will
> start at 7:00, which is our usual time. I scheduled
> the start time on Zoom for 6:30 so I can open the
> meeting a little early, so we don't miss anyone.
>
> The discussion topic on the agenda is:
> 'Selecting replacement candidates when an elected
> member cannot fulfil his/her term'
> *Please advise of any other content for the agenda.*
> *
> *
> *Also, here is my synopsis of the Zoom presentation
> (July 15th), called 'Catching the Deliberative Wave'.
> (I think others of our group also attended this), *
> * This was the launch of the OECD's report on
> 'Innovative Citizen Participation and New Democratic
> Institutions'. The report was a study of the use of
> deliberative processes (variously called, 'reference
> panels', 'citizens' assemblies', 'citizens' juries',
> 'planning cells') which have been used increasingly
> worldwide, since the 1980s, to engage citizens in
> developing informed recommendations on an issue, which
> governing authorities then use to develop policies. *
> *
> *
> *Claudian Chwalisz, one of the authors of the report,
> presented a summary of the report:*
>
> * *the deliberative process is commissioned by a
> public authority and the deliberating group is
> randomly selected, and demographically stratified
> by gender, age, geographic location, economic
> status, etc.,*
> * *the study included 289 cases of deliberative
> process worldwide, 40 of which were in Canada, at
> all levels of government*
> * *types of issues that were addressed included
> values-driven dilemnas, long-term problems, etc.
> See the graphic in the report, attached below.*
> * *criteria for a successful process included
> random/balanced selection of members of the group,
> sufficient time for the process, clear and
> specific definition of the issue, provision of
> comprehensive information to the group. THe
> report has a graphic which shows the complete
> criteria.*
> * *benefits of a deliberative process:*
> o *better policy outcomes*
> o *greater legitimacy - politicians can say
> their policies are based on citizens' informed
> judgements, rather than 'opinions' gathered
> through conventional means of gathering
> citizens' feedback, such as townhalls,
> surveys, etc.*
> o *enhances public trust*
> o *signals civic respect and empowers citizens*
> o *strengthens integrity of governing bodies*
> o *helps counteract polarization and disinformation*
> * *discussion of reasons and methods of embedding
> public deliberation as an institution, as has been
> done in some countries, such as France.*
> * *12 different models of deliberative processes are
> described in the report*
>
> *Claudia's summary was followed by a panel discussion by *
>
> * *Peter McLeod, from MASS LBP, an organization
> which designs and conducts deliberative processes
> for governing authorities, corporations, etc. He
> pointed out that 1400 Canadians have been involved
> in approximately 40 deliberative processes in
> Canada. Participants gain a better understanding
> of the complexity of an issue, and greater empathy
> for other points of view. Citizens have an
> opportunity to engage meaningfully in
> decision-making, promoting 'inclusive governance',
> in democracy . These opportunities improve
> citizens' 'democratic fitness', by sharing in the
> privilege to speak for others *
> * *Leslie Woo, from Metrolinx, the corporation that
> is planning and building transit expansion in the
> GTA and surrounding areas. Metrolinx has worked
> with MASS LBP to gather information from citizens,
> in order to plan for the transit needs in the
> GTA. She pointed out that the
> deliberative process concept needs champions who
> believe in that better policies result, and who
> are not afraid of the outcome of a deliberative
> process, who can let go of control of the outcome. *
> * *Karen Fuller, who is on the 'Open Government
> Team', which is the outreach and engagement team
> of the federal government. SHe pointed out that
> citizen deliberation is important to policy-makers
> who are looking for tools to help make complex
> decisions; that it is important
> that people believe in what the government is
> doing. Deliberative processes have not been
> widely used in government - somewhat by Health
> Canada. Her team's challenges are to promote this
> concept within the government, and to move the
> findings of the OECD report into government
> practice, by briefing senior management;
> justifying the concept of deliberative process,
> to garner support for implementing it. See
> chapter 3 of the report regarding increasing
> trends toward deliberative process, and chapter 5
> regarding principles. She finds this information
> useful in briefing public servants, since they are
> inclined to want to ground things in tenets and
> principles.*
>
> *
> *
> *I am attaching the 'Highlights' of the OECD report -
> see below. (You can also see the whole report, by
> Googling 'United Nations Democracy Fund', but the
> whole report is 240 pages, or so, and the 'Highlights'
> document is about 48 pages, which is long enough for
> me!).*
>
>
> Here is the link to our meeting next Thursday.
>
> Topic: monthly discussion group meeting
> Time: Jul 30, 2020 06:30 PM Eastern Time (US and Canada)
>
> Join Zoom Meeting
>
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