[fvc-wat-disc] monthly meeting next Thursday
Ellen Papenburg
sagittaep at gmail.com
Sat Aug 1 22:11:56 EDT 2020
Hi All,
Note: Most organisations Jim and I are connected to have no meetings in the
summer till September... It's obvious why...
However our Bread / gardening committee of our co-op building does have a
meeting (as summer is gardening time!) on Thursday August 6...
Jim and I made sure the first Thursday of the month was free for us Re this
committee...
So, we are sorry, but we can't attend the FVC meeting.
Have a good meeting and enjoy the long weekend!
Ellen (and Jim)
(via my android phone, typos may occur)
On Sat, Aug 1, 2020, 3:56 PM David dirks, <daviddirks at rogers.com> wrote:
> I can do the 6th.
>
> David
>
> On Saturday, August 1, 2020, 3:48:38 PM EDT, Mary Jackes <mkj at bell.net>
> wrote:
>
>
> i didn't remember until the meeting was almost half way through. It was
> obviously a forgetful night.
> On 2020-08-01 2:24 p.m., Cathy Scott wrote:
>
> Hi, All,
> I am sooo sorry to all of you who tried to get into our meeting on
> Thursday evening.
> I completely forgot about the meeting and didn't think of it till this
> morning.
> Should we schedule the meeting for next Thursday, Aug. 6th?
> Cathy
>
> On Thu, Jul 30, 2020 at 7:01 PM Peter Croves <petercroves at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> is meeting on?. i go to the link and nothing happens and i go to zoom,
> there is no meeting listed
>
> On Thu, Jul 23, 2020 at 10:19 PM Peter Croves <petercroves at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> noted, i should be on hand for meeting
>
> On Thu, Jul 23, 2020 at 10:15 PM Jennifer Ross <2jennross at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> Hi Cathy. Meeting sounds great!
>
> Unfortunately, there's a Green debate at that time and I already said I
> was going to it.
>
> Jenn
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> 519-501-2736
> No other Western democratic country concentrates as much political power in
> the hands of one person as Canada does with her Prime Minister.
>
>
> On Thu, Jul 23, 2020 at 10:11 PM Cathy Scott <cathy.scottfree at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> Hi, All,
> Next Thursday, July 30 is our next regular meeting. The link is below.
> Please note that the meeting will start at 7:00, which is our usual time.
> I scheduled the start time on Zoom for 6:30 so I can open the meeting a
> little early, so we don't miss anyone.
>
> The discussion topic on the agenda is:
> 'Selecting replacement candidates when an elected member cannot fulfil
> his/her term'
> *Please advise of any other content for the agenda.*
>
> *Also, here is my synopsis of the Zoom presentation (July 15th), called
> 'Catching the Deliberative Wave'. (I think others of our group also
> attended this), *
> * This was the launch of the OECD's report on 'Innovative Citizen
> Participation and New Democratic Institutions'. The report was a study of
> the use of deliberative processes (variously called, 'reference panels',
> 'citizens' assemblies', 'citizens' juries', 'planning cells') which have
> been used increasingly worldwide, since the 1980s, to engage citizens in
> developing informed recommendations on an issue, which governing
> authorities then use to develop policies. *
>
> *Claudian Chwalisz, one of the authors of the report, presented a summary
> of the report:*
>
> - *the deliberative process is commissioned by a public authority and
> the deliberating group is randomly selected, and demographically stratified
> by gender, age, geographic location, economic status, etc.,*
> - *the study included 289 cases of deliberative process worldwide, 40
> of which were in Canada, at all levels of government*
> - *types of issues that were addressed included values-driven
> dilemnas, long-term problems, etc. See the graphic in the report, attached
> below.*
> - *criteria for a successful process included random/balanced
> selection of members of the group, sufficient time for the process, clear
> and specific definition of the issue, provision of comprehensive
> information to the group. THe report has a graphic which shows the
> complete criteria.*
> - *benefits of a deliberative process:*
> - *better policy outcomes*
> - *greater legitimacy - politicians can say their policies are
> based on citizens' informed judgements, rather than 'opinions' gathered
> through conventional means of gathering citizens' feedback, such as
> townhalls, surveys, etc.*
> - *enhances public trust*
> - *signals civic respect and empowers citizens*
> - *strengthens integrity of governing bodies*
> - *helps counteract polarization and disinformation*
> - *discussion of reasons and methods of embedding public deliberation
> as an institution, as has been done in some countries, such as France.*
> - *12 different models of deliberative processes are described in the
> report*
>
> *Claudia's summary was followed by a panel discussion by *
>
> - *Peter McLeod, from MASS LBP, an organization which designs and
> conducts deliberative processes for governing authorities, corporations,
> etc. He pointed out that 1400 Canadians have been involved in
> approximately 40 deliberative processes in Canada. Participants gain a
> better understanding of the complexity of an issue, and greater empathy for
> other points of view. Citizens have an opportunity to engage meaningfully
> in decision-making, promoting 'inclusive governance', in democracy . These
> opportunities improve citizens' 'democratic fitness', by sharing in the
> privilege to speak for others *
> - *Leslie Woo, from Metrolinx, the corporation that is planning and
> building transit expansion in the GTA and surrounding areas. Metrolinx
> has worked with MASS LBP to gather information from citizens, in order to
> plan for the transit needs in the GTA. She pointed out that the
> deliberative process concept needs champions who believe in that better
> policies result, and who are not afraid of the outcome of a deliberative
> process, who can let go of control of the outcome. *
> - *Karen Fuller, who is on the 'Open Government Team', which is the
> outreach and engagement team of the federal government. SHe pointed out
> that citizen deliberation is important to policy-makers who are looking for
> tools to help make complex decisions; that it is important
> that people believe in what the government is doing. Deliberative
> processes have not been widely used in government - somewhat by Health
> Canada. Her team's challenges are to promote this concept within the
> government, and to move the findings of the OECD report into government
> practice, by briefing senior management; justifying the concept of
> deliberative process, to garner support for implementing it. See chapter
> 3 of the report regarding increasing trends toward deliberative process,
> and chapter 5 regarding principles. She finds this information useful in
> briefing public servants, since they are inclined to want to ground things
> in tenets and principles.*
>
>
> *I am attaching the 'Highlights' of the OECD report - see below. (You can
> also see the whole report, by Googling 'United Nations Democracy Fund', but
> the whole report is 240 pages, or so, and the 'Highlights' document is
> about 48 pages, which is long enough for me!).*
>
>
> Here is the link to our meeting next Thursday.
>
> Topic: monthly discussion group meeting
> Time: Jul 30, 2020 06:30 PM Eastern Time (US and Canada)
>
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>
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