[fvc-wat-disc] monthly meeting next Thursday

Peter Croves petercroves at gmail.com
Thu Jul 23 22:19:25 EDT 2020


noted, i should be on hand for meeting

On Thu, Jul 23, 2020 at 10:15 PM Jennifer Ross <2jennross at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Cathy.  Meeting sounds great!
>
> Unfortunately, there's a Green debate at that time and I already said I
> was going to it.
>
> Jenn
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> the hands of one person as Canada does with her Prime Minister.
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>
> On Thu, Jul 23, 2020 at 10:11 PM Cathy Scott <cathy.scottfree at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Hi, All,
>> Next Thursday, July 30 is our next regular meeting.  The link is below.
>> Please note that the meeting will start at 7:00, which is our usual time.
>> I scheduled the start time on Zoom for 6:30 so I can open the meeting a
>> little early, so we don't miss anyone.
>>
>> The discussion topic on the agenda is:
>> 'Selecting replacement candidates when an elected member cannot fulfil
>> his/her term'
>> *Please advise of any other content for the agenda.*
>>
>> *Also, here is my synopsis of  the Zoom presentation (July 15th), called
>> 'Catching the Deliberative Wave'. (I think others of our group also
>> attended this), *
>> * This  was the launch of the OECD's report on 'Innovative Citizen
>> Participation and New Democratic Institutions'.  The report was a study of
>> the use of  deliberative processes (variously called, 'reference panels',
>> 'citizens' assemblies', 'citizens' juries', 'planning cells') which have
>> been used increasingly worldwide, since the 1980s, to engage citizens in
>> developing informed recommendations on an issue, which governing
>> authorities then use to develop policies.  *
>>
>> *Claudian Chwalisz, one of the authors of the report, presented a summary
>> of the report:*
>>
>>    - *the deliberative process is commissioned by a public authority and
>>    the deliberating group is randomly selected, and demographically stratified
>>    by gender, age, geographic location, economic status, etc.,*
>>    - *the study included 289 cases of deliberative process worldwide, 40
>>    of which were in Canada, at all levels of government*
>>    - *types of issues that were addressed included values-driven
>>    dilemnas, long-term problems, etc.  See the graphic in the report, attached
>>    below.*
>>    - *criteria for a successful process included random/balanced
>>    selection of members of the group, sufficient time for the process, clear
>>    and specific definition of the issue,  provision of comprehensive
>>    information to the group.  THe report has a graphic which shows the
>>    complete criteria.*
>>    - *benefits of a deliberative process:*
>>       - *better policy outcomes*
>>       - *greater legitimacy - politicians can say their policies are
>>       based on citizens' informed judgements, rather than 'opinions' gathered
>>       through conventional means of gathering citizens' feedback, such as
>>       townhalls, surveys, etc.*
>>       - *enhances public trust*
>>       - *signals civic respect and empowers citizens*
>>       - *strengthens integrity of governing bodies*
>>       - *helps counteract polarization and disinformation*
>>    - *discussion of reasons and methods of embedding public deliberation
>>    as an institution, as has been done in some countries, such as France.*
>>    - *12 different models of deliberative processes are described in the
>>    report*
>>
>> *Claudia's summary was followed by a panel discussion by *
>>
>>    - *Peter McLeod, from MASS LBP, an organization which designs and
>>    conducts deliberative processes for governing authorities, corporations,
>>    etc.  He pointed out that 1400 Canadians have been involved in
>>    approximately 40 deliberative processes in Canada.  Participants gain a
>>    better understanding of the complexity of an issue, and greater empathy for
>>    other points of view.  Citizens have an opportunity to engage meaningfully
>>    in decision-making, promoting 'inclusive governance', in democracy .  These
>>    opportunities improve citizens' 'democratic fitness', by sharing in the
>>    privilege to speak for others *
>>    - *Leslie Woo, from Metrolinx, the corporation that is planning and
>>    building transit expansion in the GTA and surrounding  areas.  Metrolinx
>>    has worked with MASS LBP to gather information from citizens, in order to
>>    plan for the transit needs in the GTA.  She pointed out that the
>>    deliberative process concept needs champions who believe in that better
>>    policies result, and who are not afraid of the outcome of  a deliberative
>>    process, who can let go of control of the outcome.  *
>>    - *Karen Fuller, who is on the 'Open Government Team', which is the
>>    outreach and engagement team of the federal government.  SHe pointed out
>>    that citizen deliberation is important to policy-makers who are looking for
>>    tools to help make complex decisions;  that it is important
>>    that people believe in what the government is doing.  Deliberative
>>    processes have not been widely used in government - somewhat by Health
>>    Canada.  Her team's challenges are to promote this concept within the
>>    government, and to move the findings of the OECD report into government
>>    practice, by  briefing senior management;  justifying the concept of
>>    deliberative process,  to garner support for implementing it.  See chapter
>>    3 of the report regarding increasing trends toward deliberative process,
>>    and chapter 5 regarding principles.  She finds this information useful in
>>    briefing public servants, since they are inclined to want to ground things
>>    in tenets and principles.*
>>
>>
>> *I am attaching the  'Highlights' of the OECD report - see below. (You
>> can also see the whole report, by Googling 'United Nations Democracy Fund',
>> but the whole report is 240 pages, or so, and the 'Highlights' document is
>> about 48 pages, which is long enough for me!).*
>>
>>
>> Here is the link to our meeting next Thursday.
>>
>> Topic: monthly discussion group meeting
>> Time: Jul 30, 2020 06:30 PM Eastern Time (US and Canada)
>>
>> Join Zoom Meeting
>>
>> https://us02web.zoom.us/j/85093016919?pwd=S1JQcTVWYzZMMXVyS0xBaVlSbG5Bdz09
>>
>> Meeting ID: 850 9301 6919
>> Passcode: 525312
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