[fvc-wat-disc] Marwan

[Jennifer Ross]

Peter, the comment wasn't in response to Cathe's very good suggestion that
we look at Kitchener South-Hespeler and try to identify a Fair Voting
Liberal who would make a good candidate.

It was just a general reference to one of the misleading talking points by
pretty much everyone who is against proportional representation.  But more
Conservative than Liberal, I think.  At least (some) Liberals know better
how that won't fly.

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On Fri, Jun 19, 2020 at 12:06 PM Peter Croves <petercroves at gmail.com> wrote:

> which are you talking about-NDP OR LIB or another party?
>
> On Fri, Jun 19, 2020 at 11:59 AM Jennifer Ross <2jennross at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> I thought he was talking about just the negative talking points
>> surrounding MMP in general.  That "your MP will be decided by Vancouver"
>> which was big during the BC Referendum.  But, "Your MP will be decided by
>> Ottawa" (usually where Party Leaders have their office) is somehow better?
>> Samara did a study, and only *17% *of candidates were chosen by a
>> competitive race among party members within the riding.  Now sure, that's
>> because smaller parties counted in the study and for many, if you
>> volunteered to run you got the job.  But some MPs, like my own, don't live
>> in the riding, some are parachuted into a safe seat, some have a
>> "competitive" (also rigged) race, etc.
>>
>> Jenn
>> Bookkeeping Services
>> 519-501-2736
>> No other Western democratic country concentrates as much political power in
>> the hands of one person as Canada does with her Prime Minister.
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Jun 19, 2020 at 11:50 AM Peter Croves <petercroves at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> are you talking about NDP  or Lib when you say-This illustrates the
>>> fallacy of the argument against list appointments of top-up MPs. The
>>> citizens in a riding don't have any say in choosing candidates unless they
>>> join the local party association and even then, candidates must be approved
>>> by the party brass and leader. Democratic government by the people???
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Jun 19, 2020 at 9:57 AM arthurd23 arthurd23 <arthurd23 at bell.net>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> This illustrates the fallacy of the argument against list appointments
>>>> of top-up MPs. The citizens in a riding don't have any say in choosing
>>>> candidates unless they join the local party association and even then,
>>>> candidates must be approved by the party brass and leader. Democratic
>>>> government by the people???
>>>>
>>>> ---------- Original Message ----------
>>>> From: Catherine Campbell <cdcampbell9 at gmail.com>
>>>> Date: June 19, 2020 at 9:36 AM
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Can this topic be put onto the agenda for discussion? Who are potential
>>>> Liberal replacements to replace the KSH MP who will support PR? The Prime
>>>> Minister’s Office taxpayer paid employees will have been told to find
>>>> replacements who are Against PR. Question to Fair Voters: When a sitting MP
>>>> resigns, how long does the the PM have to call a by-election? My
>>>> recollection is a by-election has to be called within three months.I think
>>>> the local court system should schedule his trial immediately because the
>>>> outcome affects the democratic representation of the citizens of an entire
>>>> riding. The local court system shouldn’t dally the usual two to three
>>>> years. The accused will naturally keep the position and compensation until
>>>> the next election or last day of his trial, whichever comes first. Cathe
>>>> Campbell
>>>>
>>>> > On Jun 19, 2020, at 8:36 AM, Jay Judkowitz <judkowitz at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> > 
>>>> > Looks like Marwan's days as an MP are numbered. Do we have a favored
>>>> Liberal from a PR perspective that we might be able to lobby for with the
>>>> local Liberals?
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