[fvc-wat-disc] Anita's suggestions

[Sharon Sommerville]

Thanks for the insight and rational Bob.

A number of years a couple of people took on our FB posting but it didn't
take. We will need to find someone who  enjoys posting on FB & Twitter and
has time (as it is very time consuming) to add FVCWR to their to do list.
Does anyone want to help with this or have any other suggestions?

Sharon

On Thu, Jan 28, 2021 at 10:57 PM Bob Jonkman <bjonkman at sobac.com> wrote:

> Social media is definitely a way to reach out to people, but it is a
> terrible place to keep information. Social media sites quite often shut out
> participants they disagree with. A Twitter account I help manage for
> another organization regularly shuts us down "for suspicious activity". And
> on Facebook there are words and URLs that just can't be typed into a
> message. They just don't appear. Last week in a technical discussion
> Facebook kept disappearing the word "files", no explanation given. And
> Facebook doesn't deliver messages to everyone, as they try to adjust their
> algorithms (but they'll offer to "extend your reach" for a price, so you
> *know* your message isn't getting out there).
>
> All the social media platforms exist for surveillance capitalism (Google
> and Facebook are the worst, Instagram and Whatsapp are just Facebook
> rebranded, Amazon is growing its surveillance network, Twitter tries very
> hard to increase market share so they can be just as awful). They all use
> information gathered from us by unethical means to sell to their customers
> who use it for borderline illegal purposes like targeting propaganda to
> influence election outcomes. There is no way an organization like Fair Vote
> should force its membership to participate in such a scheme. This is
> especially true when it comes to expressing political opinions.
>
> Finally, the FairvoteWRC web site is used to store  documents like public
> education resource materials, meeting minutes, press clippings, upcoming
> events, and is a record of past events. There is no way to organize that
> info on social media sites, no way to ensure that Fairvote's data isn't
> used for illegitimate purposes, and no way to ensure that social media
> sites won't capriciously remove that data when it costs them more money to
> store than they make by selling it. I'm specifically thinking about using
> Google for mailing lists or  Google Docs.
>
> When  i first set up http://fairvotewrc.ca anything that was publicly
> posted on the website would automatically generate a Tweet and a Facebook
> post. Both those organizations have turned off that capability unless you
> provide them with more personal data than I'm willing to give them, and
> then they only issue an API key so they can revoke that ability any time
> (and they do, for reasons they don't give).
>
> So maybe other people may want to use social media, but not me.
>
> -- Bob.
>
>
>
> On 28 January 2021 17:33:18 GMT-05:00, Dave Arthur <arthurd23 at bell.net>
> wrote:
> >Hi all
> >I asked Anita about information on the FVC website about local
> >chapters.
> >She said results have been mixed in the past and it’s been difficult to
> >have information kept up to date.
> >I did find the list of chapters but had to go to About Us, then to
> >Contact, then to Chapters.
> >Rather round-about. I did ask Anita about that.
> >I counted 34 local chapters, 15 in Ontario and 10 in BC.
> >15 had Facebook pages and only 6 had websites and ours is down.
> >Obviously social media has pretty much taken over and I have to admit
> >not for me.
> >I have Facebook but rarely use it.
> >Anyway, Anita made the following suggestions for reaching out.
> >Perhaps we should try to use them.
> >Dave A
> >
> >In terms of outreach and connecting with others in the PR movement,
> >what would be much more useful for Waterloo would be :
> >Facebook: Get a volunteer to consistently do your facebook page. Right
> >now you have 212 fans, most of which probably liked the page 8 years
> >ago, which is not a lot for an area of 500,000 people. The only one who
> >posts on there is me, and that's only occasionally when I post
> >something generic on the national page and I want as many people as
> >possible to see it, so I cross-post to a bunch of pages. Other than
> >that, Jenn posted a national thing in Sept 2019 and Laurel posted in
> >March 2019 - two years ago. There's rarely anything local posted.
> >There's an opportunity to build your facebook community. Somebody who
> >likes to make memes? Or create facebook events for your meetings?  Or
> >post local letters to the editor with comments from FV Waterloo?
> >
> >Twitter: I see you last posted Sept 2020, but before that it was mostly
> >in 2019. If you get somebody active on that account FVC National will
> >retweet you! Many more people will see that than anything on the
> >website. Twitter is a great way to stay in touch with local
> >journalists, too. Some folks like Jonathan Cassells is on twitter a lot
> >and could take on this account.
> >
> >Instagram: If you have anybody younger... :) Our national Instagram is
> >finally getting going this year cause the TO team took it on.
> >
> >
> >Sent from Mail for Windows 10
>
> --
> Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.
>
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