Good news from the Ontario Citizens' Assembly!<br><br>The forwarded email is full of acronyms, so I'll define a few of them below:<br><br>CA - (Ontario) Citizens' Assembly<br>SA - Students' Assembly<br>MMP - Mixed Member Proportional
<br>STV - Single Transferable Vote<br>AV - Alternate Vote<br>TRS - I don't know what this one means - if someone figures it out, could they let me know?<br><br>I didn't know what Parallel voting systems were until I researched it after receiving this email. So maybe a few of you are also puzzled by it. It turns out that parallel voting systems are similar in nature to the mixed member voting systems. The difference is that the party vote is not linked to the local vote. So if a party gets 5% of the party vote, they will get 5% of the top-up seats, making it a semi-proportional system. In a Mixed Member Proportional system, getting 5% of the party vote means that you will get 5% of the total seats in the legislature.
<br><br>Derek Kraan<br>Co-Chair, Waterloo Region Chapter<br>Fair Vote Canada<br><br>---------- Forwarded message ----------<br><span class="gmail_quote">From: <b class="gmail_sendername">Fair Vote Canada</b> <<a href="mailto:larry.gordon@fairvotecanada.org">
larry.gordon@fairvotecanada.org</a>><br>Date: 18 feb 2007 17:03<br>Subject: Feb 17-18 CA meeting<br>To: <a href="mailto:fvo@fairvote.ca">fvo@fairvote.ca</a><br><br></span>
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<div><font face="Verdana" size="2">Here is a quick summary of this weekend's CA
meeting.</font></div>
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<div><font face="Verdana" size="2">They had a report on the public consultation
phase. The highlights video is still in production, so we didn't see that.
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<div><font face="Verdana" size="2">They received just under 1,000 written
submissions, but 600 came in the last two weeks before the deadline. A
committee of several CA members had been reading them all as they came in, but
were completely overwhelmed at the end. Two CA staff did read them all and
categorize/summarize them.</font></div>
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<div><font face="Verdana" size="2">In the report from that committee, the two
presenters each mentioned several submissions that they found particularly
helpful. One woman commended Wayne Smith's submission, particularly his "amazing
election simulator" (which at one point, she mis-pronounced as "stimulator",
which brought down the house). The other committee member singled out Tom
Kent's presentation. And a number of others were mentioned.</font></div>
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<div><font face="Verdana" size="2">The CA also had a presentation by the Student
Assembly, which was amazing. Five SA members did the presentation. They were all
articulate, very passionate and excellent communicators. They called on the CA
to consider their recommendation for MMP and to ensure a referendum. Taylor
Gunn, one of the SA organizers was there, and he is going to pass along info on
our student/youth campaign. In fact, one or more of the SA students will try to
attend our meeting next weekend in Toronto on the student/youth
campaign.</font></div>
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<div><font face="Verdana" size="2">The CA spent most of the weekend determining how
to move through the deliberation period. The first exericse was identifying
their three top objectives, which were:</font></div>
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<div><font face="Verdana" size="2">- each geographic area of the province
should have at least one representation</font></div>
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<div><font face="Verdana" size="2">- the number of seats a party wins should more
closely reflect its votes share</font></div>
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<div><font face="Verdana" size="2">- voters should be able to indicate both their
preferred party and candidate</font></div>
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<div><font face="Verdana" size="2">After extended discussion, they cast votes on a
preferential ballot on which system to work on first. Here are the
results:</font></div>
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<div><font face="Verdana" size="2">First Choices with Second Choices in
Brackets:</font></div>
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<div><font face="Verdana" size="2">MMP - 78 (14)</font></div>
<div><font face="Verdana" size="2">STV - 8 (28)</font></div>
<div><font face="Verdana" size="2">Parallel - 6 (34)</font></div>
<div><font face="Verdana" size="2">List PR - 3 (11)</font></div>
<div><font face="Verdana" size="2">AV - 2 (9)</font></div>
<div><font face="Verdana" size="2">TRS - 0 (0)</font></div>
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<div><font face="Verdana" size="2">The rather suprising thing was the
significant number of people who ranked parallel systems as their second
choice. </font></div>
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<div><font face="Verdana" size="2">Their intention is to do their first alternative
model at the next weekend, then decide if they will do a second alternative
(which seems almost certain) and, if so, which system. They will vote again at
that point.</font></div>
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<div><font face="Verdana" size="2">Several CA members asked if they could do three
models. While George didn't say "that's impossible", that's impossible given
time constraints. </font></div>
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<div><font face="Verdana" size="2">A few CA members were also asking if they could
just recommend changes to FPTP, e.g., adding more seats. They were told that
they could, but it would not trigger a referendum and only be advice to the
govt, since the mandate referred only to a proposal for a new voting
system. </font></div>
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<div><font face="Verdana" size="2">Very interesting weekend. The next session, when
they have to make decisions on specific features for the first time, will be
challenging for them and interesting.</font></div>
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<div><font face="Verdana" size="2">Larry</font></div>
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