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<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>A politician's idea of "democracy" is defined as:
anyone who can come up with the registration fee can run, and anyone can vote.
It matters not to them how many of us vote or how many who do
vote end up represented (have any say). So long as the contest
is what they deem a "fair" boxing match all is well, and those
who didn't win are whiners and should just suck it up. To quote
Justin Trudeau speaking against PR: "At some point you have to accept that there
is a winner and a loser, and losers don't get blue ribbons for their
effort".</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>The point missed with this cave man mentality is
that it is not about giving Karen Redman, Byron Williston and Peter Thurley
blue ribbons for effort even though they are "losers". The losers are not
the politicians, but the<EM> voters</EM>.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>Anita</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
<DIV
style="FONT: 10pt arial; BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=fifthprovince@gmail.com href="mailto:fifthprovince@gmail.com">Sean
OS</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A
title=fvc-wat-disc@listserv.thinkers.org
href="mailto:fvc-wat-disc@listserv.thinkers.org">FVC Waterloo Region
Discussion</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, February 02, 2012 11:56
AM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [fvc-wat-disc] letter to
editor</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>Rick,
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>Your astute and succinct observation is bang on. You have described
my own exasperation to a T - even though (in my case) I thought I would
have gotten over it in old age <IMG
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<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>Seán</DIV>
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<DIV class=gmail_quote>On Thu, Feb 2, 2012 at 10:41 AM, Richard Fairman <SPAN
dir=ltr><<A
href="mailto:richard.fairman@hotmail.com">richard.fairman@hotmail.com</A>></SPAN>
wrote:<BR>
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<DIV dir=ltr>Thanks for the comments and advice Anita and Les. I
just have such a problem with the
let's-pretend-that-what-we-have-here-is-democracy posturing of the defenders
of the status quo that when truth blazes down upon the ignorance, I naively
expect a consensus to develop and a take-to-the-streets movement such as the
counter-culture/occupy to ensue. But wow, it somehow still amazes me
that true democracy is not what the powers-that-be want, though they like to
use it as a buzz-word. I suspect that the system is already too
democratic for their tastes, many coming from the dictatorial infrastructure
of big business and all.<BR>Rick<BR> <BR>
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From: <A href="mailto:leskadar@rogers.com"
target=_blank>leskadar@rogers.com</A><BR>To: <A
href="mailto:fvc-wat-disc@listserv.thinkers.org"
target=_blank>fvc-wat-disc@listserv.thinkers.org</A><BR>Date: Thu, 2 Feb
2012 08:27:15 -0500<BR>Subject: Re: [fvc-wat-disc] letter to editor
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<DIV class=h5><BR><BR>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>Nice letter.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>Unfortunately those in office who received the
fictitious right to make the changes needed as described, are clearly not so
eager to do so.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>Even more unfortunate, those that vote are even less
eager to insist such changes be made by staying home and not
voting.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>les.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
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Original Message ----- </DIV>
<DIV
style="FONT: 10pt arial; BACKGROUND: rgb(228,228,228); font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal"><B>From:</B>
<A title=richard.fairman@hotmail.com
href="mailto:richard.fairman@hotmail.com" target=_blank>Richard
Fairman</A> </DIV>
<DIV
style="FONT: 10pt arial; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal"><B>To:</B>
<A title=fvc-wat-disc@listserv.thinkers.org
href="mailto:fvc-wat-disc@listserv.thinkers.org" target=_blank>Fair Vote
Canada Wat Disc Group</A> </DIV>
<DIV
style="FONT: 10pt arial; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal"><B>Sent:</B>
Wednesday, February 01, 2012 8:01 PM</DIV>
<DIV
style="FONT: 10pt arial; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal"><B>Subject:</B>
[fvc-wat-disc] letter to editor</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr>
<DIV dir=ltr>
<DIV dir=ltr>Hello Everyone<BR>I sent this letter-to-the-editor at The
Record, to which they responded saying that they would publish it. It was
not published in print but to my knowledge only in their on-line version
of Jan. 30 and then, at that, only hidden under "view more articles" that
must be clicked in order to be viewed. Why did they even
bother? Clearly, The Record disagrees with the sentiments.</DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr>
<DIV dir=ltr><FONT color=#5f497a size=3 face="Comic Sans MS">Democracy
means <I>the people rule</I>. Representative democracy means <I>the people
rule through their elected representatives</I>.<BR></FONT></DIV><FONT
size=3 face="Comic Sans MS"></FONT>
<DIV dir=ltr><FONT color=#5f497a size=3 face="Comic Sans MS">Therefore, if
representative democracy is to be truly rendered, the will of the people
must be accurately represented.<BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr><FONT color=#5f497a size=3 face="Comic Sans MS">The Canadian
electoral method fails democracy by typically awarding false, 60 percent
majorities to parties with as little as 35 percent of the electorate's
actual support. Thus, the will of the people is typically deceived,
defrauded and deposed, and consequently, the resultant government
illegitimate.<BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr><FONT color=#5f497a size=3 face="Comic Sans MS">Only an
accurately proportionate voting system mirrors, honours and serves the
supreme will of the people; hence, only proportional representation can be
true to the first principles of democracy.<BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr><FONT color=#5f497a><FONT size=3 face="Comic Sans MS">Let's
repudiate our charade of an electoral system, a system that usurps
precedence over democracy itself, a system that's been in place since
women were deprived of the right to vote and is as morally repugnant.
Let's get it right Canada! </FONT><FONT size=3 face="Comic Sans MS">It's
called <EM>progress</EM>. Proportional representation <EM>is</EM>
democracy. Let's insist on it.</FONT></FONT></DIV><FONT size=3
face="Comic Sans MS"></FONT></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr><FONT color=#7030a0 size=3 face="Comic Sans MS"><FONT
color=#5f497a></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr><FONT color=#7030a0 size=3 face="Comic Sans MS"><FONT
color=#5f497a><IMG style="VERTICAL-ALIGN: text-bottom" title=Peace
alt=Peace width=19 height=19></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr><FONT color=#7030a0 size=3 face="Comic Sans MS"><FONT
color=#5f497a>Rick Fairman</FONT></FONT></DIV></DIV></DIV>
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