<div dir="ltr"><div><div>Hi Doug,<br></div> I am interested in your proposal to discuss proportional representation more deeply. My concern is that it might require the addition of dozens of additional people to the legislature in Ottawa. If each member of parliament costs the taxpayers a couple of hundred thousand dollars a year, plus pensions after they retire, perhaps the additional cost would be unjustified. What other kind of electoral reform might be possible, I wonder.<br></div>Allan Grose lloyal8"<a href="http://gmail.com">gmail.com</a><br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Oct 9, 2015 at 12:00 PM, <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:fvc-wat-disc-request@listserv.thinkers.org" target="_blank">fvc-wat-disc-request@listserv.thinkers.org</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Send fvc-wat-disc mailing list submissions to<br>
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Date: Fri, 9 Oct 2015 10:43:24 -0400<br>
From: doug moen <<a href="mailto:doug@moens.org">doug@moens.org</a>><br>
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With the election coming up, I've done a lot of thinking about democratic<br>
and electoral reform in Canada, and I'm looking for a group of people to<br>
discuss this with. Fair Vote Waterloo looks like a good place to start.<br>
This group has no meetings scheduled, so is the mailing list the best place<br>
to have a conversation? I would also be interested in getting together with<br>
a group of people to have a discussion, either by organizing a meeting, or<br>
joining some group who is already doing this.<br>
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This group seems focused on proportional representation as the best way to<br>
reform the electoral system. Not sure how you all feel about the ranked<br>
ballot? I'm also more generally interested in democratic reform: ending the<br>
dictatorship of the PMO and giving power back to our elected<br>
representatives in the house of parliament.<br>
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Doug Moen.<br>
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I would be interested in joining a group to discuss democratic and electoral reform.<br>
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I do not support ranked ballots.<br>
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On Oct 9, 2015, at 10:43 AM, doug moen <<a href="mailto:doug@moens.org">doug@moens.org</a>> wrote:<br>
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> With the election coming up, I've done a lot of thinking about democratic and electoral reform in Canada, and I'm looking for a group of people to discuss this with. Fair Vote Waterloo looks like a good place to start. This group has no meetings scheduled, so is the mailing list the best place to have a conversation? I would also be interested in getting together with a group of people to have a discussion, either by organizing a meeting, or joining some group who is already doing this.<br>
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> This group seems focused on proportional representation as the best way to reform the electoral system. Not sure how you all feel about the ranked ballot? I'm also more generally interested in democratic reform: ending the dictatorship of the PMO and giving power back to our elected representatives in the house of parliament.<br>
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> Doug Moen.<br>
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