<div dir="ltr"><div><div><div>I'd be happy to draft something, Les, but I'm not sure I understand exactly what it is you need. <br><br>I can tell you about the committee's progress to date, and some experiences from various Town Halls--I'm not sure FVC has received enough Report Backs from the Town Halls or dialogues to make an identifiable trend in any way. I can tell you about the opposition to change. <br><br></div>Or I can tell you about the terms of the process we are in, which is a more high-level overview than the on the ground observations from the process in the paragraph above, if that is more what you mean.<br><br></div>And at this point, I suggest we just discuss this one on one and leave the discussion group out of these weeds, as it were.<br><br></div>Jenn<br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sat, Aug 6, 2016 at 8:12 AM, Les Kadar <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:leskadar@rogers.com" target="_blank">leskadar@rogers.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto"><div>Just a other tid bit.</div><div><br></div><div>You mention the " wishes of K-W ".</div><div>The reason for this stems from the direction the government administrations have taken, that being, the collaboration by the CAO-City managers and City Clerks to harmonize their process and thinking.</div><div>Why, not sure as a one size fits all mentality is not suitable nor desirable to anyone really.</div><div>Each are separate communities and have separate needs.</div><div><br></div><div>Therefore what you just wrote about May now makes sense as he and the others are having to get along in the elected officials sand box. Too many issues with too little time and ability to deal with them.</div><div><br></div><div>As someone who has followed but not been able to participate actively in this effort, I am aware of what is being attempted but not up on its progress.</div><div><br></div><div>I would greatly appreciate an updated letter of sorts that I could transcribe into my lingo and send off to him.</div><div>He always responds and expresses his position so it will be interesting to see what that is at this point.</div><span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><div><br><div><br></div><div>Les Kadar</div>iPad email</div></font></span><div><div class="h5"><div><br>On Aug 5, 2016, at 11:02 PM, Jennifer Ross <<a href="mailto:2jennross@gmail.com" target="_blank">2jennross@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div><div><div>This is interesting to me, Les. We've had several conversations with Bryan May, and he is against it on behalf of the citizens of Cambridge, who are destined to be subsumed by the wishes of Kitchener-Waterloo, yet again, on everything.<br><br></div>I don't really have an argument for him against that mindset, he's likely right. <br><br></div>On the other hand, for most of us, it is the vote of our viewpoint that makes us Fair Voters. Not who is getting barrels of pork. So, could I impress upon you to write to him with that concern, assuming you share it?<br><br></div>Thanks very much,<br><br></div>Jenn<br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Aug 5, 2016 at 9:59 PM, Les Kadar <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:leskadar@rogers.com" target="_blank">leskadar@rogers.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto"><div>Btw, the cambridge library is not interested because our elected officials aren' t either. </div><div>Sort of emphasis why I wrote what I did.</div><div>As a Cambrian, I speak from experience.<span><font color="#888888"><br><br><div><br></div><div>Les Kadar</div>iPad email</font></span></div><span><div><br>On Aug 5, 2016, at 9:44 PM, Jennifer Ross <<a href="mailto:2jennross@gmail.com" target="_blank">2jennross@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br><br></div></span><div><div><blockquote type="cite"><div><div dir="ltr">That's absolutely fantastic Paul! Thank you for this work.<br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Aug 5, 2016 at 7:01 PM, Paul Nijjar <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:paul_nijjar@yahoo.ca" target="_blank">paul_nijjar@yahoo.ca</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><br>
I got some more news about library outreach today.<br>
<br>
First, the good news: The Region of Waterloo library (which services<br>
the townships) is potentially interested in having a couple of<br>
electoral reform information sessions. Having only one FVC<br>
representative is okay, but we must be clear about our biases up<br>
front. The timing is towards the end of September, on a Tuesday,<br>
Wednesday, or Thursday. They will get back to me with some potential<br>
dates. The time is likely to be in the evening.<br>
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The format will be approximately the same as the KPL presentation: 45<br>
minutes of presentation followed by 45 minutes of Q&A.<br>
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They are interested in having one presentation in Elmira (!) and one<br>
in New Hamburg. I offered our services to other branches but I do not<br>
think they are interested.<br>
<br>
Do we have some people who are willing/able to do these information<br>
sessions? Transportation is going to be an issue for some of us, I<br>
fear. In the worst case I might be able to do something, but<br>
transportation will definitely be an issue for me.<br>
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<br>
Next, the bad news: the Idea Exchange (aka Cambridge library system)<br>
is not interested.<br>
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I have also contacted the WPL but have not heard back from them.<br>
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