<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto"><div>Actually in this case our councillor declared a conflict because he is a member of FVC. What that does is his entire knowledge and informative ability just took a back seat to progress.<br><br><div><br></div><div>Les Kadar</div>iPad email</div><div><br>On Sep 28, 2016, at 2:13 PM, <a href="mailto:cdcampbell9@gmail.com">cdcampbell9@gmail.com</a> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><div style="width: 100%; font-size: initial; font-family: Calibri, 'Slate Pro', sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); text-align: initial; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">Excellent suggestions. City councils often pass resolutions on matters beyond their jurisdiction. Cathe Campbell </div> <p style="font-size: initial; font-family: Calibri, 'Slate Pro', sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); text-align: initial; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone.</p> <table width="100%" style="background-color:white;border-spacing:0px;"> <tbody><tr><td colspan="2" style="font-size: initial; text-align: initial; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"> <div id="_persistentHeader" style="border-style: solid none none; border-top-color: rgb(181, 196, 223); border-top-width: 1pt; padding: 3pt 0in 0in; font-family: Tahoma, 'BB Alpha Sans', 'Slate Pro'; font-size: 10pt;"> <div><b>From: </b>Les Kadar</div><div><b>Sent: </b>Wednesday, September 28, 2016 8:07 AM</div><div><b>To: </b>FVC Waterloo Region Discussion</div><div><b>Reply To: </b>FVC Waterloo Region Discussion</div><div><b>Subject: </b>Re: [fvc-wat-disc] Report From Wednesday Night at the ERRE Committee<br><br> Meeting In Toronto</div></div></td></tr></tbody></table><div style="border-style: solid none none; border-top-color: rgb(186, 188, 209); border-top-width: 1pt; font-size: initial; text-align: initial; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"></div><br><div id="_originalContent" style=""><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"><div>Good morning Sharron.</div><div id="AppleMailSignature">Does FVC have any recommendations or policies for elected officials who may be in support of this effort, with respect to their positions on local councils, relative to voting in favour of motions that may promote or encourage progress of alternative voting methods such as being discussed and recommended here to the current first past the post system.</div><div id="AppleMailSignature">Thks<br><br><div><br></div><div>Les Kadar</div>iPad email</div><div><br>On Sep 25, 2016, at 1:05 PM, Sharon Sommerville <<a href="mailto:sharonsommerville@gmail.com">sharonsommerville@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><div dir="ltr">Hello FairVoting Friends,<div><br></div><div><div> </div><div>Last Wednesday, the Electoral Reform Committee met with expert witnesses and the public in Toronto. Four of our FairVote community, Shannon & Michael Purvess-Smith, Dave Arthur and myself, attended the meeting. </div><div>Shannon & Michael attended the expert witness testimony session during the day and Dave & I were at the open mic session in the late afternoon and evening.</div><div>There was a strong component of FairVote members, labour representatives and Green Party supporters.</div><div>We would like to share our impressions of the meeting. </div><div> </div><div>The first witness spoke for keeping FPTP and admitted he was giving opinion not evidence, and did not seem to have much grasp of PR options.</div><div><br></div><div>The other witness in the first session was a provincial electoral officer spoke for keeping voting simple, offered good points on electoral matters, and may have been wary of difficulties instituting a new system.</div><div><br></div><div>Neither of the first group seemed as well prepared for the committee’s questions as experts seen in the parliamentary sessions.</div><div><br></div><div>The second group of witnesses were good with the focus on accommodating Canadians with disabilities including the problems of voting for the blind. They also spoke of the need for more opportunities in politics for women.</div><div><br></div><div>The committee appeared unbiased, non-partisan, polite and generous to the witnesses, and critical only when obviously necessary.</div><div> </div><div>The public had 2 minutes each at the open mic. Dave and I both spoke. In total, eighty eight people spoke.</div><div>Most of them, 95+ %, were in support of proportional representation and no referendum.</div><div><br></div><div>A few people, 5 or 6, spoke in support of a referendum and fewer for keeping FPTP, generating.</div><div><br></div><div>There was great diversity in the speakers age and backgrounds. It was exciting and hopeful to hear that almost everyone want change and a fair electoral system. </div><div>With PR, MMP seemed to be most preferred with a couple interesting variations proposed.</div><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:calibri;font-size:16px"></span><div style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:calibri;font-size:16px">One of the most compelling speakers was a fellow from Barrie<font style="font-size:14.3pt"> <font size="3">who spoke in favour of PR and said that his grandson who is in the Cdn. Forces had just rec'd his paratrooper wings. </font></font><span style="font-size:medium">The gentleman reported that his grandson may be sent to a dangerous hotspot and could be killed. </span><span style="font-size:medium">He said, if you can send Cdns. to a place where they might get killed without a referendum then you really don't need a referendum to change how we vote. His comments received thunderous applause.</span></div><div style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:calibri;font-size:16px"><br></div><div style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:calibri;font-size:16px">At the end of the meeting, I asked Alexandre Boulerice, an NDP member from Quebec if he thought the committee could reach a consensus. He replied that it would depend on the sincerity of the Liberals. It offered the audience a good example of how a proportional governing body could work together.</div><div style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:calibri;font-size:16px"><br></div><div style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:calibri;font-size:16px">To speak directly to the committee, to have our views heard and recorded by the MP's making the recommendation was an exciting and hopeful experience.</div></div><div style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:calibri;font-size:16px"><br></div><div style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:calibri;font-size:16px">Best regards,</div><div style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:calibri;font-size:16px">Sharon</div><div><br></div></div>
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