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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-CA link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Well written Jennifer Ross!<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> fvc-wat-disc [mailto:fvc-wat-disc-bounces@listserv.thinkers.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Jennifer Ross<br><b>Sent:</b> December-01-16 11:28 PM<br><b>To:</b> FVC Waterloo Region Discussion<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [fvc-wat-disc] So, what happened today with ERRE ?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:0cm;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:72.0pt'>You couldn't plan anything to make your own party look this bad if you tried.<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:72.0pt'>Platform promises are just a means of engagement? A public, written mandate letter that DOESN'T say what you, the author, says it says? The only ones not on board are the ones that campaigned to get elected on it? A party that prides itself on evidence-based decision making (also, that was a campaign promise but they mean nothing now) making fun of MATH? How shall they ever defend Climate Change is a thing if math is off the table? Or unmuzzling scientists? Kind of hard to be both unmuzzled and unable to use math in your scientific arguments.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:72.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:72.0pt'>On Thu, Dec 1, 2016 at 9:47 PM, Eleanor Grant <<a href="mailto:eleanor7000@gmail.com" target="_blank">eleanor7000@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><p style='margin-left:36.0pt'>What a day!<o:p></o:p></p><p style='margin-left:36.0pt'>The 333-page report from ERRE came out around noon Dec 1: <a href="https://t.co/3dXxV2FMLi" target="_blank">https://t.co/3dXxV2FMLi</a><o:p></o:p></p><p style='margin-left:36.0pt'>The key pages are: <br>- 95, where PR is clearly recommended (tho in kind of obscure terminology),<br>- 319 (in which govt response is urged), and <br>- 321 to the end: the "Supplemental Reports" by Lib members of ERRE and NDP & Green members.<o:p></o:p></p><p style='margin-left:36.0pt'>It feels (to me anyway) like a team of horses pulling in opposite directions. The Liberal mbrs' report denies that a consensus on PR was reached, that Cdns were engaged, and that there is enough time to put a new system in place and familiarize the population with the issues by 2019.<o:p></o:p></p><p style='margin-left:36.0pt'>All afternoon, in the House and in media scrums, Minister Monsef repeated the same misrepresentations, in the very same words - plus insulting the committee and claiming they hadn't carried out their mandate. (Their mandate never had been to call for a specific voting system.)<o:p></o:p></p><p style='margin-left:36.0pt'>So a day of elation mixed with shock that the governing party would twist themselves into such pretzels to deny the obvious and doable recommendation of the committee.<o:p></o:p></p><p style='margin-left:36.0pt'>Anyone else get the feeling that this was planned all along, from the day they agreed to add members to ERRE to make it proportional? Cdns have been taken for a big ride.<o:p></o:p></p><p style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='color:#888888'>Eleanor <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:0cm;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:72.0pt'><br>_______________________________________________<br>This is the fvc-wat-disc mailing list<br>Post a message: <a href="mailto:fvc-wat-disc@listserv.thinkers.org">fvc-wat-disc@listserv.thinkers.org</a><br>Unsubscribe: <a href="http://listserv.thinkers.org/mailman/listinfo/fvc-wat-disc_listserv.thinkers.org" target="_blank">http://listserv.thinkers.org/mailman/listinfo/fvc-wat-disc_listserv.thinkers.org</a><o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:72.0pt'><br><br clear=all><br>-- <o:p></o:p></p><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:72.0pt'><span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:#888888'>No other Western democratic country concentrates as much political power in the hands of one person as Canada does with her Prime Minister. </span><span style='font-size:7.5pt;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></body></html>