<div dir="ltr">They now say that if you provide the demographic info they include you in the "weighted" results and if you don't you're in the overall results. Yes, they changed it. <div><br></div><div>I'm sure they need to hear pro-PR from people who live outside of big cities because that's where the support for PR and response is usually low - luckily you actually do live in one of those areas.</div><div><br></div><div>Anita</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Dec 20, 2016 at 5:32 PM, Sharon Sommerville <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:sharonsommerville@gmail.com" target="_blank">sharonsommerville@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">Hi Bob,<div><br></div><div>I believe that I heard that you no longer have to provide the demographic information to be included in the survey.  There was such a hue and cry that <span id="m_8721850808679525538:21w.2">VoxPoll</span> removed the necessity to submit personal information.  This happened about 10 days ago.</div><div><br></div><div>Cheers,</div><div>Sharon</div><div><br></div><div><br></div></div><div class="HOEnZb"><div class="h5"><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Dec 20, 2016 at 4:45 PM, Bob Jonkman <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:bjonkman@sobac.com" target="_blank">bjonkman@sobac.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----<br>
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Dave wrote:<br>
> Their point was very well put that if too many people ignore or<br>
> refuse to do the questionnaire, that feeds into their case that<br>
> there’s not enough interest or consensus.<br>
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</span>As much as I understand that lack of participation will advance the<br>
"nobody wants Electoral Reform" rhetoric of the Liberals, there's no<br>
way I'm willing to provide them with the personal, private demographic<br>
data the survey asks for. And as long as they're discounting replies<br>
that don't include the demographics, I see no point in participating.<br>
<br>
Unless it's considered acceptable to answer the survey questions as<br>
recommended by <a href="http://mycanadiandemocracy.ca/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://mycanadiandemocracy.ca/</a> but completely falsify<br>
the demographic data...  And would false demographic data also<br>
invalidate the survey? How can they tell?<br>
<br>
- --Bob.<br>
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On 2016-12-20 02:49 PM, Dave Arthur wrote:<br>
> How come I didn’t get a card from Bardish? Just watched the<br>
> Broadbent webinar with Elizabeth May and Nathan Cullen. It was<br>
> great. They provided more information about what the ERRE report<br>
> did and did not say. They were also encouraging all of us to keep<br>
> up the pressure. That included encouraging everyone to do the<br>
> questionnaire and then let the government, Monsef and MPs know what<br>
> we thought of it. Their point was very well put that if too many<br>
> people ignore or refuse to do the questionnaire, that feeds into<br>
> their case that there’s not enough interest or consensus. May and<br>
> Cullen want more people to read the ERRE report or at least the<br>
> summary points that are available. Dave A<br>
><br>
> From: Eleanor Grant Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2016 11:47 AM To:<br>
> <a href="mailto:fvc-wat-disc@listserv.thinkers.org" target="_blank">fvc-wat-disc@listserv.thinkers<wbr>.org</a> Subject: [fvc-wat-disc] Xmas<br>
> card from Bardish<br>
><br>
> Hi Fair Voters,<br>
><br>
> Did y'all get a nice card from Bardish today? Nice of her to reach<br>
> out to her opponents. I'm wondering who all those extended family<br>
> are - all children!<br>
><br>
> Eleanor<br>
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