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<p>> I know this is not positive but the Liberals need to own
this. <br>
The only world that is positive all the time is the one inhabited
by Mary Poppins. Since I don't live in that world I'm fine with
it. <br>
</p>
<p>I remember Raj coming to a little gathering in a pub for the
Leadnow types who had helped him get elected. He was late but he
had clearly made a largish effort to get there and was very
grateful for the Leadnow crew's efforts on his behalf. That
lasted about a week. <br>
</p>
<p>I think we should stop playing nice with these turds. I think we
should just visit Bardish and Bryan and Marwan and Raj and deal
the cards straight off the top of the deck. OK Mr/Ms. MP, you
don't want to play with us anymore after we got you elected to
implement PR? No problem, we're not going to get mad, we're going
get even by organizing like crazy and handing you your ass in 19
(Kiss the pension goodbye!) Now go and tell *that* to Prime
Minister Pretty Boy. <br>
</p>
<p>Regards,<br>
Jon<br>
</p>
<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 2/3/2017 4:24 PM, Anita Nickerson
wrote:<br>
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cite="mid:CANsHH84TJDEveAAA4Dpe5SgF4J8XNFhZNmrpyM4Xrgv6=uuYCQ@mail.gmail.com"
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<div dir="ltr">I would like to let you know that my Liberal tuque
has arrived.
<div><br>
</div>
<div>I am interested in a march to Raj Saini's office carrying a
coffin symbolizing the Death of Liberal Promise on Electoral
Reform. </div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>It would have to be at a time when he is there so he can
come out and explain why the Prime Minister now says that the
promise he and every one of his MPs used to get elected is
"wrong" and several other lies. </div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>The best thing would be if some media were there, or we can
send them pictures and quotes afterward. </div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>I know this is not positive but the Liberals need to own
this. </div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Every MP needs to own this and to know that nobody buys
their lame excuses.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Every MP especially needs to know that their crass
calculations on this one were wrong, and the very people who
helped elect them may now help un-elect them.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>I would also like to deliver Raj the tuke. I wouldn't want
his ears to get cold.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Of course saner voices are welcome to propose more
constructive action.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Anita</div>
</div>
<div class="gmail_extra"><br>
<div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Feb 3, 2017 at 12:59 PM, Donald
Fraser <span dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:donaldafraser@gmail.com" target="_blank">donaldafraser@gmail.com</a>></span>
wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0
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<div dir="ltr">thanks, Cathe</div>
<div class="HOEnZb">
<div class="h5">
<div class="gmail_extra"><br>
<div class="gmail_quote">On 3 February 2017 at 12:47,
<span dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:cdcampbell9@gmail.com"
target="_blank">cdcampbell9@gmail.com</a>></span>
wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0
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<div
style="background-color:rgb(255,255,255);line-height:initial">
<div
style="width:100%;font-size:initial;font-family:Calibri,'Slate
Pro',sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125);text-align:initial;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">Great
letter, Don. It was clear and readable. </div>
<p
style="font-size:initial;font-family:Calibri,'Slate
Pro',sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125);text-align:initial;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">Sent
from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone.</p>
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<div><b>From: </b>Donald Fraser</div>
<div><b>Sent: </b>Friday, February 3,
2017 12:16 PM</div>
<div><b>To: </b>FVC Waterloo Region
Discussion</div>
<div><b>Reply To: </b>FVC Waterloo
Region Discussion</div>
<div><b>Subject: </b>Re:
[fvc-wat-disc] Letters to the Editor
Needed</div>
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<div><br>
</div>
I'll pick the negative one ... just love
a scrap ... so here's my response
<div><br>
</div>
<div>==============================<wbr>========================</div>
<div><br>
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<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Dear Editor,<span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span> </span></p>
<h1 style="margin:0in 0in
7.5pt;background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial"><span
style="font-size:12pt;line-height:115%;font-family:"times new
roman";font-weight:normal">Re:</span><span
style="font-size:12pt;line-height:115%;font-family:"times new
roman""> </span><u><span
style="font-size:12pt;line-height:115%;font-family:"times
new roman";color:black">The
political fallout of breaking a
promise</span></u><span
style="font-size:12pt;line-height:115%;font-family:"times
new
roman";color:black;font-weight:normal">
by Joanna Smith_Feb3_2017<span></span></span></h1>
<p
class="m_-4290871242710319875m_5460229236373923172gmail-printable-text"
style="margin:0in 0in
7.5pt;background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial">Ms
Smith asks, “<span
style="color:rgb(90,90,90)">But
what of the majority of Canadians?
Do they care? Does it matter?”
in reference to Electoral Reform
(ER). <span></span></span></p>
<p
class="m_-4290871242710319875m_5460229236373923172gmail-printable-text"
style="margin:0in 0in
7.5pt;background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial"><span
style="color:rgb(90,90,90)">It
matters.
In our system of First Past the
Post (FPTP), votes cast for a
Green candidate,
for example, who loses are
useless. The Planet-caring,
environmentally
conscious, politically aware
voters in the particular riding
have no say in </span><span><span><span
style="color:rgb(90,90,90)">Ottawa</span></span></span><span
style="color:rgb(90,90,90)">. A
certain percentage of all
Canadians want Green
objectives to be part of the laws
of </span><span><span><span
style="color:rgb(90,90,90)">Canada</span></span></span><span
style="color:rgb(90,90,90)">. <span></span></span></p>
<p
class="m_-4290871242710319875m_5460229236373923172gmail-printable-text"
style="margin:0in 0in
7.5pt;background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial"><span
style="color:rgb(90,90,90)">It
matters
because these environmentalists
should have their say in the
structure of
government. In a proportional
system, for instance, every vote
counts to obtain
the same percentage of seats for a
party as the party received in the
national
vote count. <span></span></span></p>
<p
class="m_-4290871242710319875m_5460229236373923172gmail-printable-text"
style="margin:0in 0in
7.5pt;background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial"><span
style="color:rgb(90,90,90)">It
matters
because they may not vote in the
next election, knowing that their
votes won’t
count.<span></span></span></p>
<p
class="m_-4290871242710319875m_5460229236373923172gmail-printable-text"
style="margin:0in 0in
7.5pt;background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial"><span
style="color:rgb(90,90,90)">I
matters
because, due to discouragement,
they may cease to engage in the
political discussion
and the environment will suffer
for it.<span></span></span></p>
<p
class="m_-4290871242710319875m_5460229236373923172gmail-printable-text"
style="margin:0in 0in
7.5pt;background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial"><span
style="color:rgb(90,90,90)">Later
Smith
states, “Then there is a much
larger group that knows little and
cares less
about ER” in reference to the
Canadian electorate at large.<span></span></span></p>
<p
class="m_-4290871242710319875m_5460229236373923172gmail-printable-text"
style="margin:0in 0in
7.5pt;background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial"><span
style="color:rgb(90,90,90)">“…
knows
little and cares less … “ is
simply cause and effect.
Unfortunately, it is
difficult to excite the electorate
about ER possibilities when they
“know
little”. Attempts to educate the
public about ER are generally
regarded as “election
activity” which annoys citizens
between elections. To be fair
there is a small
percentage which does respond with
enthusiasm.<span></span></span></p>
<p
class="m_-4290871242710319875m_5460229236373923172gmail-printable-text"
style="margin:0in 0in
7.5pt;background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial"><span
style="color:rgb(90,90,90)">New
Zealand
(NZ) solved the problem by having
a trial run at Mixed Member PR
(MMPR) for
four terms. The electorate was
educated by experience and when
consulted after
the trial, voted for MMPR over the
former FPTP system. Their
experience
demonstrates that an educated
public will choose a proportional
alternative to
our antiquated and unfair FPTP
which wastes the votes of any
citizen whose
local candidate did not win in
their riding.<span></span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:7.5pt;background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial"><span>Germany</span>
has practiced MMPR since WW2.
The resulting stable form of
coalition government has allowed
Germans to become
the master long term planners we
recognize them for. They avoid the
'Policy
Pendulum' in which false majority
governments cancel, at great expense
to the
taxpayer, the projects of the
preceding government. Rather each
new government improves and supports
policies of the previous government.<span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Yours Truly,<span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Donald A Fraser,<span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span>184 Forsyth
Drive</span>,<span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span><span>Waterloo</span>,
<span>Ontario</span></span>,<span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">N2L-1A2<span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">
</p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="tel:%28519%29%20576-9210"
value="+15195769210"
target="_blank">519-576-9210</a><span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span> </span></p>
</div>
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<div class="gmail_extra"><br>
<div class="gmail_quote">On 2 February
2017 at 23:02, Sharon Sommerville <span
dir="ltr"><<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:sharonsommerville@gmail.com"
target="_blank">sharonsommerville@gmail.com</a>></span>
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<div dir="ltr">Hello <span
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Friends,
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Two great articles in today's
Record for us to respond to:</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div><a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www"
target="_blank">http://www</a>.<span
id="m_-4290871242710319875m_5460229236373923172m_-8079304990863333784:2do.2">therecord</span>.com/news-<wbr>story/7100196-the-political-fa<wbr>llout-of-breaking-a-promise/<br>
</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div><a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www"
target="_blank">http://www</a>.<span
id="m_-4290871242710319875m_5460229236373923172m_-8079304990863333784:2do.3">therecord</span>.com/opini<wbr>on-story/7098054-d-<span
id="m_-4290871242710319875m_5460229236373923172m_-8079304990863333784:2do.4">amato</span>-broke<wbr>n-promise-may-haunt-liberals/<br>
</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>We should capitalize on these
articles with letters to the
editor. A couple of letters in
response to each letter would be
wonderful. Any number would be
great.</div>
<div> </div>
<div>Have sent the request out to
our larger discussion list as
some new names would be helpful!</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Let me know if you can take
either of these on.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>With thanks,</div>
<div>Sharon</div>
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