<div dir="ltr">Breaking a promise, technically, is not a lie so long as one tells the truth that one is breaking the promise ... betrayal or a synonym is better.</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 3 February 2017 at 22:59, Jennifer Ross <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:2jennross@gmail.com" target="_blank">2jennross@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">I recognize LIES is shorter and likely doable, but if it is possible, I do like betrayal better.<br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><div><div class="h5"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Feb 3, 2017 at 10:52 PM, Jon Bathmaker <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:jon.bathmaker@gmail.com" target="_blank">jon.bathmaker@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<p>I think we should choose the one that makes them look the worst.
With that criterion BETRAYAL seems to be the winner.<br>
<br>
Best,<br>
Jon<br>
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<div class="m_4347943669864440483m_-4206887728513986925moz-cite-prefix">On 2/3/2017 10:45 PM, Anita Nickerson
wrote:<br>
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<blockquote type="cite">
<div dir="ltr">Which do you like better for the hat?
<div><br>
</div>
<div><span style="font-size:12.8px">REAL LIES or REAL BETRAYAL</span><br>
</div>
</div>
<div class="gmail_extra"><br>
<div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Feb 3, 2017 at 10:30 PM, Sharon
Sommerville <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:sharonsommerville@gmail.com" target="_blank">sharonsommerville@gmail.com</a>></span>
wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div dir="ltr">Hello All,
<div><br>
</div>
<div>We are going to have to do a lot of writing in the
coming weeks. Please remember that you don't have to
write the letters, another person can write if you can
submit or you can write a letter and have someone else
submit it. We need writers and submitters.<br>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Thanks to Donald for an excellent response to Ms.
Smith's article. We need one more. Can someone
volunteer to write and or submit a response to Ms.
Smith's article? It would need to be submitted by
Sunday evening</div>
</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>We need a supportive letter for Luisa's article. Is
there someone who can write/submit it. This one should
be easy. Again, it should be in by Sunday pm.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>We need at least two responses to today's editorial.
One should be from FVC-WR which I can draft and send
round to our bd. members so we need one more. Any
takers? Again, you can write but not submit or offer to
submit but not write.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>A march to Raj's office from KCH would be doable.
Someone could book an appointment with him (underhanded
yes, but the gloves are off) and we could arrive with
the toque which has been modified to read: REAL LIES or
REAL BETRAYAL (that's still the plan, isn't it?). I
have a pair of Liberal socks which I no longer need.
Gummie rats (sealed in plastic about 3oz.) can be
purchased on line. I was thinking of sending one of the
pair to Trudeau filled with gummie rats, be happy to
make up another one to give to Raj.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Here are the rats:</div>
<div><a href="https://www.jellybelly.com/gummi-pet-rat/p/5148" target="_blank">https://www.jellybelly.com/gum<wbr>mi-pet-rat/p/5148</a><br>
</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Personally not in favour of the coffin as it has been
used to death (!) for all kinds of causes but lots of
signs, and a media alert and facebooking etc. Plus it
would be fun.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Happy to start up a "I will not vote for you again"
petition at all our upcoming events, give a focus to our
summer festival tables.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>And, my home will be open for a meeting this Monday
at 7 pm for anyone who wants to come to plan the next
few months.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Onward!</div>
<span class="m_4347943669864440483m_-4206887728513986925HOEnZb"><font color="#888888">
<div>Sharon</div>
</font></span></div>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Feb 3, 2017 at 7:34
PM, arthurd23 arthurd23 <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:arthurd23@bell.net" target="_blank">arthurd23@bell.net</a>></span>
wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div>
<p>Lots of letters to the editor in The Star and
Globe.</p>
<p>There was also a consensus with almost all of
them castigating Trudeau.</p>
<p>One opposing view - The Record editorial.
Surprise!!!</p>
<p>Do we have some letters being sent to The
Record?</p>
<p>Dave A</p>
<blockquote type="cite"><span> ----------
Original Message ---------- <br>
From: Donald Fraser <<a href="mailto:donaldafraser@gmail.com" target="_blank">donaldafraser@gmail.com</a>>
<br>
Date: February 3, 2017 at 12:15 PM <br>
<br>
</span>
<div dir="ltr"><span>
<div> <br>
</div>
I'll pick the negative one ... just love a
scrap ... so here's my response
<div> <br>
</div>
<div> ==============================<wbr>========================
</div>
<div> <br>
</div>
</span>
<div><span>
<p class="MsoNormal"> <br>
</p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> <br>
</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Dear Editor,</p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> <br>
</p>
<h1 style="margin:0in 0in 7.5pt"><span>Re:</span>
<span style="text-decoration:underline"><span>The political
fallout of breaking a promise</span></span><span>
by Joanna Smith_Feb3_2017</span></h1>
<p style="margin:0in 0in 7.5pt" class="m_4347943669864440483m_-4206887728513986925m_-4394794225282075956m_3733130802391506301gmail-printable-text">Ms
Smith asks, “<span style="color:#5a5a5a">But what of
the majority of Canadians? Do they
care? Does it matter?” in reference
to Electoral Reform (ER). </span></p>
<p style="margin:0in 0in 7.5pt" class="m_4347943669864440483m_-4206887728513986925m_-4394794225282075956m_3733130802391506301gmail-printable-text"><span style="color:#5a5a5a">It matters. In
our system of First Past the Post
(FPTP), votes cast for a Green
candidate, for example, who loses
are useless. The Planet-caring,
environmentally conscious,
politically aware voters in the
particular riding have no say in </span><span style="color:#5a5a5a">Ottawa</span><span style="color:#5a5a5a">. A certain
percentage of all Canadians want
Green objectives to be part of the
laws of </span><span style="color:#5a5a5a">Canada</span><span style="color:#5a5a5a">. </span></p>
<p style="margin:0in 0in 7.5pt" class="m_4347943669864440483m_-4206887728513986925m_-4394794225282075956m_3733130802391506301gmail-printable-text"><span style="color:#5a5a5a">It matters
because these environmentalists
should have their say in the
structure of government. In a
proportional system, for instance,
every vote counts to obtain the same
percentage of seats for a party as
the party received in the national
vote count. </span></p>
<p style="margin:0in 0in 7.5pt" class="m_4347943669864440483m_-4206887728513986925m_-4394794225282075956m_3733130802391506301gmail-printable-text"><span style="color:#5a5a5a">It matters
because they may not vote in the
next election, knowing that their
votes won’t count.</span></p>
<p style="margin:0in 0in 7.5pt" class="m_4347943669864440483m_-4206887728513986925m_-4394794225282075956m_3733130802391506301gmail-printable-text"><span style="color:#5a5a5a">I matters
because, due to discouragement, they
may cease to engage in the political
discussion and the environment will
suffer for it.</span></p>
<p style="margin:0in 0in 7.5pt" class="m_4347943669864440483m_-4206887728513986925m_-4394794225282075956m_3733130802391506301gmail-printable-text"><span style="color:#5a5a5a">Later Smith
states, “Then there is a much larger
group that knows little and cares
less about ER” in reference to the
Canadian electorate at large.</span></p>
</span>
<p style="margin:0in 0in 7.5pt" class="m_4347943669864440483m_-4206887728513986925m_-4394794225282075956m_3733130802391506301gmail-printable-text"><span style="color:#5a5a5a">“... knows
little and cares less ... “ is simply
cause and effect. Unfortunately, it is
difficult to excite the electorate
about ER possibilities when they “know
little”. Attempts to educate the
public about ER are generally regarded
as “election activity” which annoys
citizens between elections. To be fair
there is a small percentage which does
respond with enthusiasm.</span></p>
<div>
<div class="m_4347943669864440483m_-4206887728513986925m_-4394794225282075956h5">
<p style="margin:0in 0in 7.5pt" class="m_4347943669864440483m_-4206887728513986925m_-4394794225282075956m_3733130802391506301gmail-printable-text"><span style="color:#5a5a5a">New Zealand
(NZ) solved the problem by having
a trial run at Mixed Member PR
(MMPR) for four terms. The
electorate was educated by
experience and when consulted
after the trial, voted for MMPR
over the former FPTP system. Their
experience demonstrates that an
educated public will choose a
proportional alternative to our
antiquated and unfair FPTP which
wastes the votes of any citizen
whose local candidate did not win
in their riding.</span></p>
<p style="margin-bottom:7.5pt" class="MsoNormal">Germany has
practiced MMPR since WW2. The
resulting stable form of coalition
government has allowed Germans to
become the master long term planners
we recognize them for. They avoid
the 'Policy Pendulum' in which false
majority governments cancel, at
great expense to the taxpayer, the
projects of the preceding
government. Rather each new
government improves and supports
policies of the previous government.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Yours Truly,</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Donald A Fraser,</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">184 Forsyth
Drive,</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Waterloo,
Ontario,</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">N2L-1A2</p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> <br>
</p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><a href="tel:%28519%29%20576-9210" value="+15195769210" target="_blank">519-576-9210</a></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> <br>
</p>
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<div class="gmail_extra"> <br>
<div class="gmail_quote"> On 2 February
2017 at 23:02, Sharon Sommerville <
<a href="mailto:sharonsommerville@gmail.com" target="_blank">sharonsommerville@gmail.com</a>>
wrote: <br>
<blockquote>
<div dir="ltr"> Hello <span id="m_4347943669864440483m_-4206887728513986925m_-4394794225282075956m_3733130802391506301m_-8079304990863333784:2do.1">FairVoting</span>
Friends,
<div> <br>
</div>
<div> Two great articles in
today's Record for us to respond
to: </div>
<div> <br>
</div>
<div> <a href="http://www" target="_blank">http://www</a>.
<span id="m_4347943669864440483m_-4206887728513986925m_-4394794225282075956m_3733130802391506301m_-8079304990863333784:2do.2">therecord</span>.com/news-
story/7100196-the-political-
fallout-of-breaking-a-promise/ <br>
</div>
<div> <br>
</div>
<div> <a href="http://www" target="_blank">http://www</a>.
<span id="m_4347943669864440483m_-4206887728513986925m_-4394794225282075956m_3733130802391506301m_-8079304990863333784:2do.3">therecord</span>.com/
opinion-story/7098054-d- <span id="m_4347943669864440483m_-4206887728513986925m_-4394794225282075956m_3733130802391506301m_-8079304990863333784:2do.4">amato</span>-
broken-promise-may-haunt-
liberals/ <br>
</div>
<div> <br>
</div>
<div> We should capitalize on
these articles with letters to
the editor. A couple of letters
in response to each letter would
be wonderful. Any number would
be great. </div>
<div> <br>
</div>
<div> Have sent the request out to
our larger discussion list as
some new names would be helpful!
</div>
<div> <br>
</div>
<div> Let me know if you can take
either of these on. </div>
<div> <br>
</div>
<div> With thanks, </div>
<div> Sharon </div>
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