<div dir="ltr">I guess we need to look at the purpose of the shirt, if the idea is to wear it at other times than at a FVC table. <div><br></div><div>I'm still wearing my black and red tent from five years ago. It says to people in the grocery store "I have a shirt on from an organization you've never heard of." </div><div><br></div><div>So it doesn't necessarily accomplish anything except if our goal is to build the FVC brand name recognition if there were enough of us everywhere, which there aren't.<div><br></div><div>And as much as I want something that encourages people to take action (vote for a candidate who supports PR in 2019) not sure anybody's ever taken action based on seeing someone in a t-shirt. That would be a message for a shirt you're wearing at the table - reinforces our message. </div><div><br></div><div>So maybe having something on there that encourages people to ask you about your shirt. Like a question...?</div></div><div><br></div><div>Anita</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Jul 20, 2017 at 4:58 PM, Jay Judkowitz <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:judkowitz@gmail.com" target="_blank">judkowitz@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">+1. I think we should be positive and non-confrontational. Personally, I would not wear a negative shirt as it makes it harder to get support from folks who are otherwise happy with the Liberals. We need everyone's support.</div><div class="HOEnZb"><div class="h5"><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Jul 20, 2017 at 4:55 PM, Jennifer Ross <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:2jennross@gmail.com" target="_blank">2jennross@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">Disagree with Anita on tying to broken promise--simply because T-shirts last longer than pens, say, and we are multi-partisan. So a long-term thing against a specific party isn't helpful.<br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><div><div class="m_5034527170185194385h5"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Jul 20, 2017 at 4:42 PM, Anita Nickerson <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:anitann88@gmail.com" target="_blank">anitann88@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">One thing I hear all the time from people is that we can't use acronyms like PR. Have to spell it out. <div><br></div><div>Probably something like the button - Your Vote Should Count. But it's good to tie it into broken promise and the next election. Vote for a party that believes every vote should count type thing.</div><span class="m_5034527170185194385m_-45695830751409431HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><div><br></div><div>Anita</div></font></span></div><div class="m_5034527170185194385m_-45695830751409431HOEnZb"><div class="m_5034527170185194385m_-45695830751409431h5"><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Jul 20, 2017 at 3:17 PM, Michael O'Brien <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:emandjayobrien@gmail.com" target="_blank">emandjayobrien@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div>A suggestion could be "Want PR - don't trust a Liberal"</div><div><br></div><div>Mike O'Brien</div></div><div class="m_5034527170185194385m_-45695830751409431m_8649475160818868119HOEnZb"><div class="m_5034527170185194385m_-45695830751409431m_8649475160818868119h5"><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Jul 20, 2017 at 10:46 AM, Catherine Campbell <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:cdcampbell9@gmail.com" target="_blank">cdcampbell9@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">I've seen t-shirts with messages on them . They've been manufactured by a company called Gildan. The fabric is thin, course and scratchy. It's terrible quality. Try to avoid it. It's the feel of burlap, woven cottonless t-shirts people will wear only for publicity events and not in public off duty. Future donations to second hand stores and landfill sites. The printing companies no doubt buy them cheaply and make a big profit. Does the group think it's a worthy cause to try and get Canadian made t-shirts or are Asian sweatshops acceptable?<br>
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