<div dir="ltr">This was pretty unambiguous<div><a href="http://en.guycaron.ca/electoral_reform">http://en.guycaron.ca/electoral_reform</a><br></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Aug 14, 2017 at 4:09 PM, Jennifer Ross <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:2jennross@gmail.com" target="_blank">2jennross@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div>Fair Vote Canada has asked the four candidates three questions on PR. Two have answered the actual questions. Ashton has posted something to Facebook, and Angus (who might be one of the two answering the questions) has given us an entire video just to us, which I'll try to find in a bit. It will be published tomorrow, just in time for people to sign up with their support of the NDP or a specific candidate.<br><br></div>Jenn, ex-officio member of the executive (no longer Treasurer)<br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><div><div class="h5"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Aug 14, 2017 at 4:04 PM, Dave Arthur <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:arthurd23@bell.net" target="_blank">arthurd23@bell.net</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<div>I’ve looked at the websites of the four NDP leadership candidates and none
of them have any mention of electoral reform or PR.</div>
<div>What does this mean?</div>
<div>Does anyone have anything more encouraging about any of the four on
ER?</div>
<div>Dave A</div>
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<div><b>From:</b> <a title="arthurd23@bell.net">arthurd23 arthurd23</a> </div>
<div><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, August 8, 2017 6:21 PM</div>
<div><b>To:</b> <a title="ddolson@golden.net">David Dolson</a> ; <a title="fvc-wat-disc@listserv.thinkers.org">FVC Waterloo Region Discussion</a>
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<div><b>Subject:</b> Re: [fvc-wat-disc] Fw: Your facts on ERRE don't fit with
FVC analysis</div></div></div>
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<p>Unfortunately, he's correct that the majority of Canadians are uninformed or
totally complacent or both.</p>
<p>Without a government that is committed to true democracy as 90% of developed
democracies have, and takes on a major education campaign, we in Canada will
never see PR. We are not New Zealand where they did care. BC might but they are
somewhat more progressive.</p>
<p>Dave</p>
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Dolson <<a href="mailto:ddolson@golden.net" target="_blank">ddolson@golden.net</a>> <br>Date: August 8, 2017 at 1:33 PM <br><br>
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got this response. It seems sympathetic, so he might be receptive to friendly
pointers. </div>
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<div><strong>Sent: </strong>Tuesday, August 8, 2017 11:10 AM </div>
<div><strong>To: </strong>David Dolson </div>
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<p>Hi Dave:</p>
<p>I'm looking at the results of that government online survey in late 2015,
in which 67% said they were somewhat or very satisfied with the existing
system. </p>
<p>The Abacus Data poll for the Broadbent Institute reported 40% say electoral
reform is not important to them and 12% say they couldn't care less. An
Insights West poll found 62% are very or somewhat satisfied with FPTP.</p>
<p>There's no clarion call for action, is there?</p>
<p>As the unfortunate Maryam Monsef said: "The only consensus that the report
found was that there is no consensus on electoral reform." </p>
<p>My point is simply this: if the government wants electoral reform, it will
not get it by taking the pulse of the country or by providing a stage for
interest groups. It has to get out and sell the idea. If half or more than
half of the people aren't interested in change, no wise gvernment is going to
embrace it.</p>
<p>At this point, the Conservatives are opposed to change and the Liberals
don't care about it.</p>
<p>I'm afraid it's not going to happen.</p>
<p>Thanks for writing.</p>
<p>Cheers,</p>
<p>Geoff</p>
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<blockquote type="cite">---------- Original Message ---------- <br>From:
David Dolson <<a href="mailto:ddolson@golden.net" target="_blank">ddolson@golden.net</a>> <br>Date: August 8, 2017 at 8:32 AM
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<div>Geoffrey, </div>
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<div>I just read you opinion article at
<a href="https://www.therecord.com/opinion-story/7490755-time-for-trudeau-to-get-back-to-work/" target="_blank">https://www.therecord.com/opi<wbr>nion-story/7490755-time-for-<wbr>trudeau-to-get-back-to-work/</a>
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<div>Although I generally agree with the sentiment of the article, you
state, </div>
<div>" <span style="FONT-SIZE:18px;FONT-FAMILY:'UniversLTStd Cn',arial,helvetica,sans-serif;COLOR:#333333;LINE-HEIGHT:22px;BACKGROUND-COLOR:#ffffff">largest
number said they thought they preferred the existing first-past-the-post
system, perhaps with tweaks"</span> </div>
<div> </div>
<div>This massively disagrees with the analysis here:
<a href="http://www.fairvote.ca/strong-mandate/" target="_blank">http://www.fairvote.ca/strong-<wbr>mandate/</a> </div>
<div><span style="FONT-FAMILY:calibri,'Slate Pro',sans-serif,sans-serif"><br></span></div>
<div>How can you explain this? It seems like you didn't read the same report
that Fair Vote Canada did. </div>
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<div>I, and it would seem a majority of Canadians, would prefer Justin had
got to work on electoral reform as well. </div>
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<div>-Dave </div><br><br></blockquote>
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