<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto"><div></div><div>I'd like to plan to see Bardish with you. I live in Waterloo</div><div><br>On Nov 13, 2017, at 11:24 PM, Harold Remus <<a href="mailto:hremus@golden.net">hremus@golden.net</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div>
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<div>Thanks, Sharon.</div>
<div>500+ signatures is formidable, IMHO.</div>
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<div>I would like to come to the meeting with Bardish, but it depends on
transportation and the date and possible scheduling conflicts.</div>
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<div>How to address that pesky qu. of a referendum. People blindly
point to the Ont and BC as negative examples. Getting into the details
glazes people’s eyes over. And of course, you say you are for
“democracy”---well, referendum....</div>
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<div>PM: the decision his to make. No. 45: deciding to pull out of
the Paris climate agreement. Expletive!</div>
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<div style="font-color: black"><b>From:</b> <a title="sharonsommerville@gmail.com" href="mailto:sharonsommerville@gmail.com">Sharon Sommerville</a> </div>
<div><b>Sent:</b> Monday, November 13, 2017 7:37 AM</div>
<div><b>To:</b> <a title="fvc-wat-disc@listserv.thinkers.org" href="mailto:fvc-wat-disc@listserv.thinkers.org">FVC Waterloo Region
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<div><b>Subject:</b> Re: [fvc-wat-disc] Our Meeting With Raj
Saini</div></div></div>
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<div dir="ltr">Thank you Cathy.</div>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Nov 12, 2017 at 10:50 PM, Cathy Scott <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:cathy.scottfree@gmail.com" target="_blank">cathy.scottfree@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; COLOR: #1f497d">HI,
Sharon<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; COLOR: #1f497d">Thanks
for the information about the meeting with Raj.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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sounds like it went well. I’m glad there were enough people to fill the
room.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; COLOR: #1f497d">See
you soon<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; COLOR: #1f497d">Cathy<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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[mailto:<a href="mailto:fvc-wat-disc-bounces@listserv.thinkers.org" target="_blank">fvc-wat-disc-bounces@<wbr>listserv.thinkers.org</a>] <b>On
Behalf Of </b>Sharon Sommerville<br><b>Sent:</b> Sunday, November 12, 2017
9:27 AM<br><b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:fvc-wat-announce@listserv.thinkers.org" target="_blank">fvc-wat-announce@listserv.<wbr>thinkers.org</a>; <a href="mailto:fvc-wat-disc@listserv.thinkers.org" target="_blank">fvc-wat-disc@listserv.<wbr>thinkers.org</a><span><br><b>Subject:</b>
[fvc-wat-disc] Our Meeting With Raj Saini<u></u><u></u></span></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Hello Fairvoting Friends,<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Friday afternoon, a group of nine of us meet with Raj
Saini, (L) MP for Kitchener Centre. Nine folks pretty much fills Raj's
office! We presented Raj with this summer's petition which asked that
his party keep their campaign promise and enact legislation to change our
electoral system in time for 2019. There were well over 500 signatures
on the petition.<u></u><u></u></p></div>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Our message was strong, clear, passionate and respectful.
Each of us had time to speak directly to Raj about why they care about
electoral reform. Those comments were very powerful. <u></u><u></u></p></div>
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<p class="MsoNormal">People spoke about the inevitability of electoral reform as
our own experience and recent polls (In late Oct. Insights West found that 67%
of Cdns. want the Liberal government to keep its promise on electoral reform,
in early Oct. Angus Reid found the same) & the evidence that supports
change, one of us emphasized that this is a legacy issue as his father before
him established by patriating our Constitution and<span style="BACKGROUND: white"> raised the question of what side of history do you
and your party want to be on?, one of us asked him, "I know, that you know
that PR is the way to go to establish a fair electoral system, what
happen?". One of us asked, what can we do to help you support PR?.
One wanted to finally, after 40 years of voting, to be represented by someone
they voted for. </span><u></u><u></u></p></div>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="BACKGROUND: white">We addressed Trudeau's
statement that the decision to renege on the promise of electoral reform was
his to make and he made it because they weren't going to be able to institute
Alternative Vote (June 2017, Iqaluit, Nunavut). We raised the
anti-democratic nature of that statement. Raj spoke about the threat of a
referendum being the justification for not moving forward with electoral
reform. We knew that because the Liberals were unwilling to negotiate with the
NDP & Greens to bring about the ERRE recommendations, the NDP & Greens
brokered a deal with the Conservatives. To bring in a majority report from the
ERRE committee, the price was a referendum.</span><u></u><u></u></p></div>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="BACKGROUND: white">Raj promised to present our
petition to the House and speak with the Minister of Democratic Institutions
about our concerns. We thank Raj for taking those actions and for the
respectful conversation we had on Friday.</span><u></u><u></u></p></div>
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<p class="MsoNormal">There is interest in putting a group together to speak with
Bardish Chagger (L) Waterloo. If anyone is interested in going to meet with
Minister Chagger, please let me know and we will arrange a meeting. You
can reach me at:<u></u><u></u></p></div>
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<p class="MsoNormal">sharonsommerville@<a href="http://gmail.com" target="_blank">gmail.com</a> <u></u><u></u></p></div>
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<p class="MsoNormal">A sincere thank you to the eight fair voting supporters who
attended Friday's meeting. Everyone's passion, honesty and determination
is inspiring. <u></u><u></u></p></div>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Attached is a wonderful video of Sam Cooke's "A Change Is
Gonna Come", just in case you need a little inspiration right now. And,
you can see a photo of our team outside Raj's office at FVC-WR's
website. The link is also attached.<u></u><u></u></p></div>
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<p class="MsoNormal">With thanks to all our supporters for your continued
support as we work toward building a better Canada.<u></u><u></u></p></div>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Best wishes,<u></u><u></u></p></div>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Sharon<u></u><u></u></p></div>
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<p class="MsoNormal">for FVC-WR<u></u><u></u></p></div>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wEBlaMOmKV4" target="_blank">https://www.youtube.com/watch?<wbr>v=wEBlaMOmKV4</a><u></u><u></u></p></div>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><a href="http://www.fairvotewrc.ca/reminding-raj-saini-about-electoral-reform/?t=1&cn=ZmxleGlibGVfcmVjcw%3D%3D&refsrc=email&iid=3528e8591d67497a803a18f64ef78a18&uid=756912124761370624&nid=244+272699400" target="_blank">http://www.fairvotewrc.ca/<wbr>reminding-raj-saini-about-<wbr>electoral-reform/?t=1&cn=<wbr>ZmxleGlibGVfcmVjcw%3D%3D&<wbr>refsrc=email&iid=<wbr>3528e8591d67497a803a18f64ef78a<wbr>18&uid=756912124761370624&nid=<wbr>244+272699400</a><u></u><u></u></p></div>
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