<div dir="ltr">Hi,<div><br></div><div>Thanks for the reply - I definitely appreciate it. :)</div><div><br></div><div>I have also been left wondering what I'm missing. From what I have seen, a simple request has turned into some significant accusations. To me, this risks taking us off topic and creating other problems. If people are coming to the meeting viewing Bardish as a corrupt politician, I'm really concerned that will creep into the approach, even if people try to cover it up. That would be a loss for everybody, in my opinion.We may disagree with her on a policy piece, but there is nothing to be gained by going in viewing her as someone who engages in political intimidation - if anything, that approach will result in a poorly worded pitch, and create exactly the defensiveness we are already accusing her of. </div><div><br></div><div>So, from my perspective, I see a simple misunderstanding (which, as far I can tell, nobody has tried to clear up with Bardish's office), and an opportunity to engage in a respectful policy discussion with a real human being, who is, presumably, doing her best in the midst of challenging circumstances. Doesn't mean everybody likes every decision - that's what discussion and accountability are for. :)</div><div><br></div><div> If the group is approaching Bardish with a positive perspective (as a human being, who we agree with on many things, and are nudging a change on one thing), instead of a politician who is out to intimidate and suppress opposition, I am very happy to be part of the meeting. I have always found her lovely to work with, even through some challenging times. I hope to see that continue. :)</div><div><br></div><div>Just my thoughts, </div><div><br></div><div>SJM</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr">On Tue, Nov 21, 2017 at 11:12 AM Corliss Olson <<a href="mailto:cpolson11@gmail.com">cpolson11@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div><div><div><div><div>Hello everyone,<br><br></div>I have been following this discussion, & have indicated that I am also interested in attending this meeting with Ms. Chagger if I am available at the time. My address is 24 - 74 Autumn Ridge Trail, Kitchener. I am in Kitchener South-Hespler.<br><br></div>Did I miss an email that said specifically that we are not welcome/allowed to attend if we are not in the riding? I did see the request for addresses, which struck me as perfectly reasonable to identify constituents coming with concerns. (And I took the request for a Waterloo address as a subtle hint, &/or a mechanism to "screen" for actual constituents/voters in the riding.)<br><br></div>I think that, as a Cabinet Minister, there is greater scope for attendees -- although I think any of us visiting any MP should also be perfectly acceptable. I do not feel nor do I see any hint of intimidation. And, even if there were, why wouldn't we just show up? If we are too many for the room, of course some of us would be excluded. <br><br></div>I think the key points have to do with respectful presentation of our concerns. And it's not a bad idea to spell out how this is good for the governing party.</div><div><br></div><div>Thanks,</div><div>Corliss<br></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Nov 21, 2017 at 9:04 AM, STUART CHANDLER <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:stuchandler43@gmail.com" target="_blank">stuchandler43@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div text="#000000" bgcolor="#FFFFFF" style="background-color:rgb(255,255,255);line-height:initial" lang="en-US">                                                                                      <div style="width:100%;font-size:initial;font-family:Calibri,'Slate Pro',sans-serif,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125);text-align:initial;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">I appreciate Evans desire to move forward and prepare for the meeting by discussing points relevant to ‎ER & PR.  And also Dave Arthur's observations about a Cabinet Minister having greater responsibilities to all Canadians as well as his previous experience with Bardish's defensiveness. </div><div style="width:100%;font-size:initial;font-family:Calibri,'Slate Pro',sans-serif,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125);text-align:initial;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><br></div><div style="width:100%;font-size:initial;font-family:Calibri,'Slate Pro',sans-serif,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125);text-align:initial;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">I regret my role in us possibly getting sidetracked about issues like whether ‎I should have felt intimidated or fears that the debate was becoming too negative. </div><div style="width:100%;font-size:initial;font-family:Calibri,'Slate Pro',sans-serif,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125);text-align:initial;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><br></div><div style="width:100%;font-size:initial;font-family:Calibri,'Slate Pro',sans-serif,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125);text-align:initial;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">It is certain that those who oppose PR are happiest if they believe we are divided against‎ one another. </div><div style="width:100%;font-size:initial;font-family:Calibri,'Slate Pro',sans-serif,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125);text-align:initial;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><br></div><div style="width:100%;font-size:initial;font-family:Calibri,'Slate Pro',sans-serif,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125);text-align:initial;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">I can appreciate also that none of you know me very well, and may see my emotional responses as a concern. Those who do know me well have commended me for the respectful & caring way that I deal with others.</div><div style="width:100%;font-size:initial;font-family:Calibri,'Slate Pro',sans-serif,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125);text-align:initial;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><br></div><div style="width:100%;font-size:initial;font-family:Calibri,'Slate Pro',sans-serif,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125);text-align:initial;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">My riding is Kitchener-Conestoga, so "my representative" in Parliament is a member of a party that presently does not represent my main values‎. So I am saddened and disappointed by the news that a neighbouring Liberal riding office would be less than welcoming - especially after campaigning on "Real Change", and promising to represent all Canadians & be open to hearing all perspectives. </div><div style="width:100%;font-size:initial;font-family:Calibri,'Slate Pro',sans-serif,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125);text-align:initial;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><br></div><div style="width:100%;font-size:initial;font-family:Calibri,'Slate Pro',sans-serif,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125);text-align:initial;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">My point is: The relevance this has to PR is that the Liberals have been trying to promote the idea that, with them in power, PR is not necessary, since they will be so good at representing all Canadians. So I see this screening issue as further proof (proof that Bardish has provided) that PR is really needed (and that another promise has been broken). </div><div style="width:100%;font-size:initial;font-family:Calibri,'Slate Pro',sans-serif,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125);text-align:initial;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><br></div><div style="width:100%;font-size:initial;font-family:Calibri,'Slate Pro',sans-serif,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125);text-align:initial;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">Thanks for listening. </div><div style="width:100%;font-size:initial;font-family:Calibri,'Slate Pro',sans-serif,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125);text-align:initial;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><br></div><div style="width:100%;font-size:initial;font-family:Calibri,'Slate Pro',sans-serif,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125);text-align:initial;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">In peace. </div><div style="width:100%;font-size:initial;font-family:Calibri,'Slate Pro',sans-serif,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125);text-align:initial;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><br></div><div style="width:100%;font-size:initial;font-family:Calibri,'Slate Pro',sans-serif,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125);text-align:initial;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">Stu    </div>                                                                                                                                     <div style="width:100%;font-size:initial;font-family:Calibri,'Slate Pro',sans-serif,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125);text-align:initial;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><br></div>                                                                                                                                                                                                   <div style="font-size:initial;font-family:Calibri,'Slate Pro',sans-serif,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125);text-align:initial;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone on the Rogers network.</div>                                                                                                                                                                                  <table style="background-color:white;border-spacing:0px" width="100%"> <tbody><tr><td colspan="2" style="font-size:initial;text-align:initial;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">                           <div style="border-style:solid none none;border-top-color:rgb(181,196,223);border-top-width:1pt;padding:3pt 0in 0in;font-family:Tahoma,'BB Alpha Sans','Slate Pro';font-size:10pt">  <div><b>From: </b>Evan Rosamond</div><div><b>Sent: </b>Tuesday, November 21, 2017 12:26 AM</div><div><b>To: </b><a href="mailto:fvc-wat-disc@listserv.thinkers.org" target="_blank">fvc-wat-disc@listserv.thinkers.org</a></div><div><b>Reply To: </b>FVC Waterloo Region Discussion</div><div><b>Subject: </b>Re: [fvc-wat-disc] Meeting with Bardish</div></div></td></tr></tbody></table><div style="border-style:solid none none;border-top-color:rgb(186,188,209);border-top-width:1pt;font-size:initial;text-align:initial;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"></div><br><div id="m_-539243175289284113m_-4951639944841299373_originalContent" style="background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">
  
    
  
  
    <div class="m_-539243175289284113m_-4951639944841299373moz-cite-prefix">Hey Waterloonians,<br>
      <br>
      It's a relief that you seem to have decided not to be intimidated.
      Since I live in Kitchener, it seems I've been uninvited to Ms
      Chaggar's  gathering. <br>
      <br>
      When you get to Bardish's office have your points all ready.
      Here's a sample of stuff you might want to talk about:<br>
      <ul>
        <li>As far as we can tell from polls and our own door-knocking
          campaign, approximately 2/3 of the voters want the government
          to keep Trudeau's promise of 2015.</li>
        <li>The main reason for all this is fairness. As much as
          possible we want a system fair to parties (number of seats
          proportional to a party's actual support), fair to candidates
          (no need for strategic voting), and fair to voters (nearly all
          votes should help some candidate get elected).<br>
        </li>
        <li>There is still time to get PR installed for the 2019
          election, but the government will have to reverse their
          reversal soon. <br>
        </li>
        <li>However, there is no longer enough time to redraw the
          election map. This means that MMP and all its variations can't
          be considered if we want a fair election in 2019. That leaves
          only a 2-level open list system or one of the many variants of
          STV.</li>
        <li>Any sort of PR will cost the Liberals some seats, based on
          2015 results. but it would give them more seats based on 2011
          results. But since there will be minority governments nearly
          all the time, the Liberals could find themselves on the
          government side more or less perpetually, but they will have
          to share it.<br>
        </li>
        <li>PR will also give all national parties some MPs from all
          parts of Canada.</li>
      </ul>
      <p>Good luck!</p>
      <p>Evan Rosamond<br>
      </p>
      <br>
      On 11/20/2017 5:04 PM, Dave Arthur wrote:<br>
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          <div>However, Bardish is a cabinet minister and isn’t she, as
            a member of the cabinet with responsibilities for Small
            Business and Tourism and Government House Leader,
            responsible to all Canadians, not just her own
            constituents????</div>
          <div>May I add that we must meet with her in a positive manner
            in any case.</div>
          <div>In my two meetings with her she becomes defensive quickly
            and can demean those who don’t agree with her or with the
            Trudeau government.</div>
          <div>However, it is our job to be ready for this and to have
            solid, well-prepared points to counter this.</div>
          <div>Dave A</div>
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                <div><b>From:</b> <a title="stephanie@janzenmartin.net">Stephanie Janzen-Martin</a> </div>
                <div><b>Sent:</b> Monday, November 20, 2017 1:34 PM</div>
                <div><b>To:</b> <a title="fvc-wat-disc@listserv.thinkers.org">FVC Waterloo Region
                    Discussion</a> </div>
                <div><b>Subject:</b> Re: [fvc-wat-disc] Meeting with
                  Bardish</div>
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            <div> </div>
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            <div dir="ltr">Hi Anita,
              <div> </div>
              <div>Thanks for that info. Very useful. :) </div>
              <div> </div>
              <div>SJM</div>
            </div>
            <div> </div>
            <div class="gmail_quote">
              <div dir="ltr">On Mon, Nov 20, 2017 at 12:59 PM Anita
                Nickerson <<a>anitann88@gmail.com</a>>
                wrote:<br>
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                <div dir="ltr">Hi folks. I'm only partially following
                  this discussion.. but if it's that Bardish's office
                  wants the names and addresses of all attendees, so
                  that they will only allow people who live in the
                  riding to attend, in organizing MP visits with
                  Liberals across the country in the past 1-2 years,
                  that's pretty common practice for the assistant to
                  require that. Sometimes you can give them a few names
                  and addresses and then kinda add other people in who
                  just show up with you. But they don't want to deal
                  with non-constituents.
                  <div> </div>
                  <div>Anita</div>
                </div>
                <div class="gmail_extra">
                  <div> </div>
                  <div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Nov 20, 2017 at 11:52
                    AM, Mary Jackes <span dir="ltr"><<a>mkj@bell.net</a>></span>
                    wrote:<br>
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                        <p>Yes, indeed.  Anything other than a polite
                          approach to a politician is completely
                          counter-productive.  Perhaps simply asking for
                          clarification?  That could present the
                          opportunity to say that we find a requirement
                          of details on the visiting group
                          unprecedented.<br>
                        </p>
                        <p>Based on 13 years of association with Fair
                          Vote and other groups here in Waterloo, plus
                          years in Alberta, I would say such a request
                          is unprecedented.  And it's for that reason
                          that I find asking for names and addresses
                          odd.  Definitely "intimidation" comes in
                          different forms in different countries (I've
                          worked in several where intimidation could
                          mean really bad things - for me up to and
                          including a wall and a sub-machine gun in one
                          country and being chased by armed goons
                          through the night in another).  But in
                          Canadian terms.......... My reaction to Stu's
                          email was that "intimidating" was a reasonable
                          word for him to have used, in the sense of
                          inducing anxiety.<span class="m_-539243175289284113m_-4951639944841299373m_133367381446398285HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><br>
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                            <p>Mary.<br>
                            </p>
                          </font></span>
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                            <div> </div>
                            <div class="m_-539243175289284113m_-4951639944841299373m_133367381446398285m_4789092478023249547moz-cite-prefix">On
                              11/20/2017 10:16 AM, Stephanie
                              Janzen-Martin wrote:<br>
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                              <div dir="ltr">Hi all,
                                <div> </div>
                                <div>Thank you for the responses. I am
                                  all in favour of pushing MPs
                                  (respectfully), on policy issues. My
                                  only concern with how this email
                                  thread was going was that it seemed to
                                  be veering into territory that seemed
                                  unnecessarily harsh and negative - if
                                  we see our MP as treating people as
                                  second class citizens and intimidation
                                  etc, those are big claims, and I
                                  hesitate to throw them around lightly.
                                  (I've lived places where that is a
                                  real threat, and that kind of stuff
                                  actually does happen, and it looks
                                  very different from this - trust me!
                                  :)) Not that there isn't maybe a way
                                  that Bardish could have handled this
                                  better, but jumping to intimidation
                                  just seems unrealistic to me -
                                  especially since, as far I can tell,
                                  nobody has even asked her why she
                                  wanted the info. Feels like a lot of
                                  negative speculation that is very thin
                                  on facts. :)</div>
                                <div> </div>
                                <div>Why would we confront Bardish (even
                                  if it is done politely) and tell her
                                  that some people didn't like her
                                  request, and are accusing her of
                                  intimidation, when we haven't even
                                  bothered to ask her why she asked for
                                  the info in the first place? Shouldn't
                                  we learn more first?</div>
                                <div> </div>
                                <div>Let's have a great chat with
                                  Bardish about PR and policy, and be
                                  smart and clear-headed about it. Let's
                                  not jump to falsely positive
                                  conclusions (overly naive), but let's
                                  also not jump to falsely negative
                                  conclusions (overly cynical). </div>
                                <div> </div>
                                <div>Thoughts?</div>
                                <div> </div>
                                <div>SJM</div>
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                                <div dir="ltr">On Mon, Nov 20, 2017 at
                                  9:59 AM STUART CHANDLER <<a>stuchandler43@gmail.com</a>>
                                  wrote:<br>
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                                    <div>Hi Stephanie‎ (and all) </div>
                                    <div> </div>
                                    <div>I, for one, certainly value
                                      your viewpoint. It's good to know
                                      you've had a positive experience
                                      working with Bardish's office. </div>
                                    <div> </div>
                                    <div>Personally, I always approach
                                      life from the perspective of
                                      "Expect the Best", so, I want
                                      there to be no misunderstanding of
                                      my intent. I agree 100% that we
                                      should approach EVERY meeting with
                                      ANY person or group from that
                                      positive perspective. </div>
                                    <div> </div>
                                    <div>However, I believe it is wise
                                      to consider all factors before
                                      such a meeting, so as not to be
                                      blind-sided by something that, in
                                      retrospect we should have seen
                                      coming. And we are left standing
                                      with mouths agape, not knowing
                                      what say in response. I also
                                      believe it is possible to say
                                      challenging things ‎in very
                                      respectful ways. </div>
                                    <div> </div>
                                    <div>In my opinion, the best way to
                                      approach this would be to
                                      respectfully advise her office of
                                      how the email is being received by
                                      some people, and to add the
                                      assurance that we imagine that
                                      reaction was not intended.</div>
                                    <div> </div>
                                    <div>I have identified 3 reactions:
                                      1) surprise and concern over the
                                      introduction of a new practice in
                                      the visit to the MP's office. ‎2)
                                      the feeling of intimidation
                                      generated. 3) the feeling of
                                      possible exclusion (or being
                                      considered 2nd-class) if a
                                      prospective visitor lives in a
                                      different riding. </div>
                                    <div> </div>
                                    <div>As we are a group that is
                                      focused on the promotion of
                                      increased Democracy, I suggest
                                      that before we passively accept a
                                      new practice by an MP, we consider
                                      if it is likely to advance the
                                      cause of Democracy (and access to
                                      MPs) or more likely to have the
                                      opposite effect. ‎To me, this
                                      seems to have the opposite effect.
                                      And an MP should be respectfully
                                      advised. </div>
                                    <div> </div>
                                    <div>Sincerely. </div>
                                    <div> </div>
                                    <div>Stu. </div>
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                                    <div>Sent from my BlackBerry 10
                                      smartphone on the Rogers network.</div>
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                                              <div><b>From: </b>Stephanie
                                                Janzen-Martin</div>
                                              <div><b>Sent: </b>Monday,
                                                November 20, 2017 9:00
                                                AM</div>
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                                              <div><b>To: </b>FVC
                                                Waterloo Region
                                                Discussion</div>
                                              <div><b>Reply To: </b>FVC
                                                Waterloo Region
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                                              <div><b>Subject: </b>Re:
                                                [fvc-wat-disc] Meeting
                                                with Bardisheach meeting
                                                ‎</div>
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                                      <div dir="ltr">Hi all,
                                        <div> </div>
                                        <div>I'll add my thoughts in
                                          here, if you don't mind. I am
                                          not a particular fan of the
                                          liberals (I'm NDP/Green) - but
                                          I have had several issues
                                          where I have been working with
                                          Bardish's office (here and
                                          Ottawa) for the last year or
                                          so. She and her staff have
                                          been extremely polite,
                                          positive and helpful, while
                                          working with me on big
                                          questions, despite there being
                                          no immediate fix available.
                                          (On another issue, they worked
                                          very hard with me over several
                                          weeks and found an immediate
                                          solution, which was great!)</div>
                                        <div> </div>
                                        <div>Maybe she really is trying
                                          to secretly intimidate the
                                          opposition by getting
                                          logistical info, or maybe this
                                          is a simple misunderstanding
                                          that is being escalated every
                                          time someone else responds in
                                          the email thread. If so, I am
                                          sure that any meeting we might
                                          get with her in this issue
                                          will be compromised if we go
                                          in assuming the worst. How can
                                          we expect to work for positive
                                          change if we are so convinced
                                          of such negative things about
                                          her, based on so little info? 
                                          If that is how the meeting is
                                          going to be started, then I'd
                                          rather not be a part of it,
                                          since I already have a great
                                          working relationship with her
                                          and her staff, and I don't
                                          want to jeopardize it with
                                          these negative assumptions.</div>
                                        <div> </div>
                                        <div>All I'm saying is that I
                                          would give the benefit of the
                                          doubt and get more info before
                                          assuming intimidation... :)</div>
                                        <div> </div>
                                        <div>Hope that helps,</div>
                                        <div> </div>
                                        <div>SJM</div>
                                      </div>
                                      <div> </div>
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                                        <div dir="ltr">On Sun, Nov 19,
                                          2017 at 1:09 PM Mary Jackes
                                          <<a>mkj@bell.net</a>>
                                          wrote:<br>
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                                            <p>I must say that this
                                              leaves an unpleasant taste
                                              in the mouth.  It feels
                                              like intimidation. <br>
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                                            Best,<br>
                                            <br>
                                            Mary</div>
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                                              11/18/2017 9:21 AM, STUART
                                              CHANDLER wrote:<br>
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                                              <div>Thanks Sharon for
                                                passing the Bardish
                                                email along. </div>
                                              <div> </div>
                                              <div>Holy crap!!  More
                                                proof that Bardish has a
                                                HUGE amount of nerve,
                                                and indulges in
                                                covert/overt
                                                intimidation (although
                                                I'm sure she would
                                                cleverly try to sell it
                                                as "genuine interest in
                                                her constituants". ‎ I
                                                have no doubt that she
                                                has a pretty clear sense
                                                of the effect that
                                                "interest" (in having
                                                the names and addresses
                                                of those interested in
                                                visiting her office -
                                                particularly if coming
                                                with intent to complain
                                                or challenge) would have
                                                on anyone so inclined. <br>
                                              </div>
                                              <div> </div>
                                              <div>Sent from my
                                                BlackBerry 10 smartphone
                                                on the Rogers network.</div>
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                                                        <div><b>From: </b>Sharon
                                                          Sommerville</div>
                                                        <div><b>Sent: </b>Friday,
                                                          November 17,
                                                          2017 8:08 PM</div>
                                                        <div><b>To: </b>FVC
                                                          Waterloo
                                                          Region
                                                          Discussion</div>
                                                        <div><b>Reply
                                                          To: </b>FVC
                                                          Waterloo
                                                          Region
                                                          Discussion</div>
                                                        <div><b>Subject:
                                                          </b>Re:
                                                          [fvc-wat-disc]
                                                          Meeting with
                                                          Bardish</div>
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                                                <div dir="ltr">Hi Cathe,
                                                  <div> </div>
                                                  <div>That would be
                                                    great, thank you! 
                                                    Will </div>
                                                  <div> </div>
                                                  <div>Here is <span id="m_-539243175289284113m_-4951639944841299373m_133367381446398285m_4789092478023249547m_-4880881446777834969m_4005109044483004758:y4.1">th</span>
                                                    email that I rec'd
                                                    today from <span id="m_-539243175289284113m_-4951639944841299373m_133367381446398285m_4789092478023249547m_-4880881446777834969m_4005109044483004758:y4.2">Bardish's</span>
                                                    constituency
                                                    assistant:</div>
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                                                    <p class="MsoNormal" style="FONT-SIZE:19px"><span style="FONT-SIZE:11pt;FONT-FAMILY:calibri,sans-serif;COLOR:rgb(31,73,125)">Hi
                                                        Sharon,</span></p>
                                                    <p class="MsoNormal" style="FONT-SIZE:19px"><span style="FONT-SIZE:11pt;FONT-FAMILY:calibri,sans-serif;COLOR:rgb(31,73,125)"></span> </p>
                                                    <p class="MsoNormal" style="FONT-SIZE:19px"><span style="FONT-SIZE:11pt;FONT-FAMILY:calibri,sans-serif;COLOR:rgb(31,73,125)">Thanks
                                                        for your email
                                                        and for your
                                                        call the other
                                                        day, could you
                                                        please let me
                                                        know some info
                                                        about who would
                                                        like to meet?
                                                        Could you please
                                                        also provide
                                                        their Waterloo
                                                        addresses for
                                                        our records?</span></p>
                                                    <p class="MsoNormal" style="FONT-SIZE:19px"><span style="FONT-SIZE:11pt;FONT-FAMILY:calibri,sans-serif;COLOR:rgb(31,73,125)"></span> </p>
                                                    <p class="MsoNormal" style="FONT-SIZE:19px"><span style="FONT-SIZE:11pt;FONT-FAMILY:calibri,sans-serif;COLOR:rgb(31,73,125)">Thanks
                                                        and I hope
                                                        you’re having a
                                                        great day.</span></p>
                                                    <p class="MsoNormal" style="FONT-SIZE:19px"><span style="FONT-SIZE:11pt;FONT-FAMILY:calibri,sans-serif;COLOR:rgb(31,73,125)"></span> </p>
                                                    <p class="MsoNormal" style="FONT-SIZE:19px"><span style="FONT-SIZE:11pt;FONT-FAMILY:calibri,sans-serif;COLOR:rgb(31,73,125)">Sincerely,</span></p>
                                                    <p class="MsoNormal" style="FONT-SIZE:19px"><span style="FONT-SIZE:11pt;FONT-FAMILY:calibri,sans-serif;COLOR:rgb(31,73,125)"><br>
                                                      </span></p>
                                                    <p class="MsoNormal"><font color="#1f497d" face="Calibri,

                                                        sans-serif"><span style="FONT-SIZE:14px">In my experience, it is unheard of to screen
                                                          constituents
                                                          for a meeting
                                                          with a MP. 
                                                          Let me know if
                                                          you want to
                                                          provide
                                                          Bardish's
                                                          office with
                                                          your address.</span></font></p>
                                                    <p class="MsoNormal"><font color="#1f497d" face="Calibri,

                                                        sans-serif"><span style="FONT-SIZE:14px"><br>
                                                        </span></font></p>
                                                    <p class="MsoNormal"><font color="#1f497d" face="Calibri,

                                                        sans-serif"><span style="FONT-SIZE:14px">Cheers,</span></font></p>
                                                    <p class="MsoNormal"><font color="#1f497d" face="Calibri,

                                                        sans-serif"><span style="FONT-SIZE:14px">Sharon</span></font></p>
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                                          <p dir="ltr">Stephanie
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