<div dir="auto">What is the subject of the mail thread I should be looking at the see the existing discussion?</div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, Aug 15, 2019, 5:25 PM Jennifer Ross <<a href="mailto:2jennross@gmail.com">2jennross@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">Hi Jay. There is a discussion going on on the Fair Vote Canada discussion list on pretty much exactly this topic right this minute. Would you like to join the googlegroup <br><table class="m_7243733043676430742gmail-ajC" cellpadding="0"><tbody><tr class="m_7243733043676430742gmail-ajv"><td colspan="2" class="m_7243733043676430742gmail-gG"><br></td><td colspan="2" class="m_7243733043676430742gmail-gL"><span class="m_7243733043676430742gmail-gI"><span><a href="mailto:pr_discussion_group@googlegroups.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">pr_discussion_group@googlegroups.com</a><br>and post it there as well? It would seem to be under Thread Discipline, which right away tells you how successful that's been, LOL. You might want to please the guy and start a new subject line of "Material for door to door discussions"<br><br>Jenn<br></span></span></td></tr></tbody></table>
<div><div><div dir="ltr" class="m_7243733043676430742m_-4736001742491055322gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div><font size="2">Bookkeeping Services</font></div><div><font size="2">519-501-2736</font><br></div><div dir="ltr"><div style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-size:10px;background-color:transparent;font-style:normal"><span><font color="#888888"><font size="1"><span style="font-family:tahoma,new york,times,serif"><span style="line-height:10.9091px">No other Western democratic country concentrates as much political power </span></span></font><font size="1"><span style="font-family:tahoma,new york,times,serif"><span style="line-height:10.9091px">in the hands of one person as Canada does with her Prime Minister. </span></span></font></font></span></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, Aug 15, 2019 at 4:09 PM Catherine Campbell <<a href="mailto:cdcampbell9@gmail.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">cdcampbell9@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto"><div dir="ltr"></div><div dir="ltr">Great idea</div><div dir="ltr"><br>On Aug 15, 2019, at 2:52 PM, Jay Judkowitz <<a href="mailto:judkowitz@gmail.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">judkowitz@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div>FairVoters,</div><div><br></div><div> I had to explain PR to my 10 year old daughter after our last meeting and came up with this two tab spreadsheet (which can easily be printed out on a single sheet 8.5x11 sheet of paper - one tab per side). I was thinking that something like this could help us guide door to door conversations if we decide to take that route. I'd love your feedback on this idea generally, and the content specifically.</div><div><br></div><div> <a href="https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1xyUjwYo6TpwejEdCXbSxm11ooXFACKQAFIoZ3_mMqrg/edit#gid=1710981120" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">Tab 1</a> is a setup. It's the results of an election in a mythical country with 11 ridings and 21,000 people in each riding. Each cell is 1000 votes. Tab 1 asks four questions of the listener about what they thought would be fair and democratic. There is no pitch for PR at this point and no criticism of FPTP. Just try to get people's gut feel on the questions. (My daughter's gut feel on what would be fair and good aligned with our values for PR)</div><div><br></div><div> <a href="https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1xyUjwYo6TpwejEdCXbSxm11ooXFACKQAFIoZ3_mMqrg/edit#gid=0" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">Tab 2</a> is the results with FPTP and PR. It shows the distortion of FPTP and explains why that's bad. And, the whole 39% of the votes = 100% of the power is exactly what happened in 2011 and 2015 as we know. Now presumably, the listeners answered the questions reasonably in the first tab and will be shocked by the results in the second tab. Then we explain how PR can get more closely aligned to their expectations of fairness and democracy.</div><div><br></div><div> What do you think of that approach of engaging with people - starting with the questions and letting them come to the conclusion that FPTP sucks on their own?</div><div><br></div><div>Thanks,</div><div>Jay</div></div>
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