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--></style></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink="#954F72"><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal>I still don’t see that electoral reform is in any way partisan.</p><p class=MsoNormal>It’s about our democracy.</p><p class=MsoNormal>Is that off-limits with our elected MPs?</p><p class=MsoNormal>Did everyone see Bob Hepburn’s op-ed in today’s Record/</p><p class=MsoNormal><a href="https://www.therecord.com/opinion-story/9670223-six-reasons-to-just-say-no-to-electoral-reform/">https://www.therecord.com/opinion-story/9670223-six-reasons-to-just-say-no-to-electoral-reform/</a><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>All six reasons to say no to ER are BS.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Anyone want to respond?<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Dave A</p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Sent from <a href="https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986">Mail</a> for Windows 10</p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div style='mso-element:para-border-div;border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal style='border:none;padding:0in'><b>From: </b><a href="mailto:cdcampbell9@gmail.com">Catherine Campbell</a><br><b>Sent: </b>Wednesday, October 30, 2019 11:00 PM<br><b>To: </b><a href="mailto:fvc-wat-disc@listserv.thinkers.org">FVC Waterloo Region Discussion</a><br><b>Subject: </b>Re: [fvc-wat-disc] Next Week's FVC-WR Meeting</p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Catherine Fife said “partisan topics” couldn’t be discussed in her constituency office in the meeting that Jonathon and Don Fraser also attended a few months ago. You were at the only meeting I’ve attended with Bardish. You and I talked outside her outer door while we waited. <o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><br><br><o:p></o:p></p><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>On Oct 29, 2019, at 6:50 PM, Sharon Sommerville <sharonsommerville@gmail.com> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote></div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>Hi Cathe,<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>I'm interested in the context of Bardish's comments about not discussing partisan politics in their constituency office. Can you give more details?<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Three of us: Terry, Anita and myself met with Bardish to talk about Citizens' Assemblies prior to the election. Not sure if addressing Citizens' Assemblies is partisan. Addressing LPC issues in the constituency office would be partisan.<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Tue, Oct 29, 2019 at 4:41 PM Catherine Campbell <<a href="mailto:cdcampbell9@gmail.com">cdcampbell9@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in'><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Re: “Fair Vote and PR are (allegedly) non-partisan”: Hey, Dave, You are delegated to find nests of Conservatives and Liberals and put the statement to them. Wear a body cam. Show us the video at the November meeting. Somebody should bring popcorn. Cathe Campbell<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><br><br><o:p></o:p></p><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>On Oct 29, 2019, at 4:34 PM, Dave Arthur <<a href="mailto:arthurd23@bell.net" target="_blank">arthurd23@bell.net</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote></div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>But Fairvote and electoral reform are not partisan. Correct?</p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> </p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> </p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Sent from <a href="https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986" target="_blank">Mail</a> for Windows 10</p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> </p><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b>From: </b><a href="mailto:cdcampbell9@gmail.com" target="_blank">Catherine Campbell</a><br><b>Sent: </b>Tuesday, October 29, 2019 4:27 PM<br><b>To: </b><a href="mailto:fvc-wat-disc@listserv.thinkers.org" target="_blank">FVC Waterloo Region Discussion</a><br><b>Subject: </b>Re: [fvc-wat-disc] Next Week's FVC-WR Meeting</p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> </p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>I’m always on the side of activism. Whenever questions are posed to our group. “Shall we do X?”, my answer will always be, “Yes!.” So yes to what Peter wrote, and yes to delegating to Anita the herding, corralling and sending off of pro-PR residents to meet with our newly re-elected and elected MPs outside their constituency offices. Catherine Fife and I recall Bardish Chagger telling our Fair Vote they couldn’t discuss partisan politics inside their constituency office. Hence, we follow the rules of engagement and meet on neutral territory. </p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt'>On Oct 28, 2019, at 10:11 PM, Cathy Scott <<a href="mailto:cathy.scottfree@gmail.com" target="_blank">cathy.scottfree@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</p></blockquote></div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Hi, Everyone</p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Just a reminder that this Wednesday, Oct. 30, is the last of the month and we will be meeting at the 'Hub' at 7:00pm, at St. John's church at Duke and Water Streets.</p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Here are some points of discussion:</p></div><div><ol start=1 type=1><li class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'>election results (I will bring The Record edition that lists the results by riding). <o:p></o:p></li><li class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'>strategies for getting electoral reform on the Liberal-NDP-Green agenda<o:p></o:p></li></ol></div><blockquote style='margin-left:30.0pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><ul type=disc><li class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo2'>visits to local Liberal MPs regarding establishing a Citizens' Assembly<o:p></o:p></li><li class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo2'>should we accept Anita's offer to help us find and coordinate volunteers for these visits or organize them ourselves, independently of FVC?<o:p></o:p></li></ul></blockquote><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> 3. website update - Jay recently found that our website is down</p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> </p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>See you then!</p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Cathy</p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> </p></div></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> </p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>On Sat, Oct 26, 2019 at 1:16 PM Cathy Scott <<a href="mailto:cathy.scottfree@gmail.com" target="_blank">cathy.scottfree@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</p></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Hi, Sharon and Bob</p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>It occurred to me yesterday that this coming Wed. is the last of the month. </p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Some of the agenda might be:</p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>- discussing the election results (I saved the Record edition that lists results riding by riding)</p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>- planning strategy for getting electoral reform on the Liberal-NDP-Green agenda; and how they could do it before the next election, if we can show that it should be important to them.</p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> </p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>What do you think?</p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Let me know if you want me to send out the announcement.</p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Cathyr </p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> </p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>On Sat, Oct 26, 2019 at 11:15 AM Sharon Sommerville <<a href="mailto:sharonsommerville@gmail.com" target="_blank">sharonsommerville@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</p></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Hello Bob, </p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> </p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Bob, congratulations on moving the Green vote up nearly 4% in Brantford-Brant. That represents a lot of work & that doesn't include travel time!</p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> </p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>You usually send out the notice for our monthly meeting. Are you up to doing that or should Cathy/I send it out?</p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> </p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>It will be at the Hub.</p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> </p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Warm regards,</p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>S.</p></div></div></blockquote></div></blockquote></div></div></blockquote><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-right:.5in;margin-bottom:5.0pt;margin-left:.5in'>_______________________________________________<br>This is the fvc-wat-disc mailing list<br>Post a message: <a href="mailto:fvc-wat-disc@listserv.thinkers.org" target="_blank">fvc-wat-disc@listserv.thinkers.org</a><br>Unsubscribe: <a href="http://listserv.thinkers.org/mailman/listinfo/fvc-wat-disc_listserv.thinkers.org" target="_blank">http://listserv.thinkers.org/mailman/listinfo/fvc-wat-disc_listserv.thinkers.org</a></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> </p></div><p class=MsoNormal>_______________________________________________<br>This is the fvc-wat-disc mailing list<br>Post a message: <a href="mailto:fvc-wat-disc@listserv.thinkers.org" target="_blank">fvc-wat-disc@listserv.thinkers.org</a><br>Unsubscribe: <a href="http://listserv.thinkers.org/mailman/listinfo/fvc-wat-disc_listserv.thinkers.org" target="_blank">http://listserv.thinkers.org/mailman/listinfo/fvc-wat-disc_listserv.thinkers.org</a><o:p></o:p></p></div></blockquote></div><p class=MsoNormal>_______________________________________________<br>This is the fvc-wat-disc mailing list<br>Post a message: <a href="mailto:fvc-wat-disc@listserv.thinkers.org" target="_blank">fvc-wat-disc@listserv.thinkers.org</a><br>Unsubscribe: <a href="http://listserv.thinkers.org/mailman/listinfo/fvc-wat-disc_listserv.thinkers.org" target="_blank">http://listserv.thinkers.org/mailman/listinfo/fvc-wat-disc_listserv.thinkers.org</a><o:p></o:p></p></blockquote></div></div></blockquote><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:0in;margin-right:.5in;margin-bottom:5.0pt;margin-left:.5in'>_______________________________________________<br>This is the fvc-wat-disc mailing list<br>Post a message: fvc-wat-disc@listserv.thinkers.org<br>Unsubscribe: http://listserv.thinkers.org/mailman/listinfo/fvc-wat-disc_listserv.thinkers.org<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></body></html>