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<p>Thanks for the update Anita. </p>
<p>It sounds to me like a 'case of avoidance' !!<br /></p>
<p>For all the folks on the visitation list who might not have seen the updated essay I wrote after the election and sent to my old colleague Raj, I have attached it for your interest.<br /></p>
<p>There are two major things you might want to note<br /></p>
<p>1. My MMPP proposal offers the Liberals a compromise possibility by combining Preferential (in the limited and simplified form of what I call Second Choice Preferential- SCP) with Proportional voting<br /></p>
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<p>2. Please note the numbers in the Appendix A chart that show what the 2019 election would have been if we only used MMP. The closeness between the % of votes and the % of seats is within 1 and 1/2 %. If you replace FPTP with SCP then the results would be even closer<br /></p>
<p>I personally think that if we want to get the Liberals and some Conservatives supporting electoral reform there must be Preferential component - that would appeal to their bases which after all represent about 60% of the total electorate !<br /></p>
<p>Let us hope the Liberals will see that the future requires them to look again at electoral reform<br /></p>
<p>Many thenks<br /></p>
<p>Gordon Nicholls<br /></p>
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It's okay, Raj's office now says that he can't meet off site till January (probably it was about 5 minutes away from his office to Sam's condo, but whatever ): and only 7 could fit in his office.
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The group that booked the visit are going to tomorrow as a small group to his office. When I get a report I'll send to Cathy.
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Everyone else who signed up from Kitchener Centre, I asked if they would mind writing a short note to Raj that the organizer can print tonight and take about why this is important to them. About three people have, which is great.
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Everyone else, I encouraged them to be in touch with the local chapter if they want to get involved, as you will be talking about if/when to visit Raj again.
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<em>It was wonderful to have about 15 people signed up to go tomorrow!!</em>
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Your campaign made an impression on Raj. He only won with 36% of the vote. The best thing is if he sees that we're not slinking away into a dark corner because Liberals have declared this dead, that a 2023 local campaign could be even bigger :).
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<p>We've been to see Raj three times about this and that. He knows we're not from Kitchener Centre.</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I’m not in Kitchener Centre but am in Waterloo.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">How many do you have for Wednesday morning with Raj?</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">I would be available and I doubt that he would know me as not in his riding.</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I live in Waterloo not Kitchener Centre, and I’m giving a speech to my Toastmaster’s International club at that time. What about inviting Conservatives who now, according to the poll sent to the Fair Vote list, are 70 percent in favour of electoral reform. They see how first past the post gave the Trudeau Liberals far more seats than the Conservatives despite the Liberals attracting one percent fewer votes. Cathe Campbell PS Christmas party will help Fair Vote members to network, team build and talk politics<span style="text-decoration: underline;"></span><span style="text-decoration: underline;"></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><strong>WE NEED PEOPLE FROM KITCHENER CENTRE TO ATTEND A MEETING WITH RAJ ON WEDNESDAY AT 11:30</strong><span style="text-decoration: underline;"></span><span style="text-decoration: underline;"></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">The idea is to assemble as large a group as possible. Think of it as the "cure Raj of apathy" initiative - may require multiple treatments ;)<span style="text-decoration: underline;"></span><span style="text-decoration: underline;"></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Theses visits are happening now across the country. The favourite line of the Liberal MPs is that nobody cares about this, it's dead in the Liberal party blah blah. We must push back (nicely, but persisently).<span style="text-decoration: underline;"></span><span style="text-decoration: underline;"></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">In this riding we've taken the optimistic step of <strong>hoping that we can assemble quite a few people!</strong> (If that doesn't happen, we only look mildly like losers :). It was one of those judgement calls - the room for 7 or the room for 20? So we went with 20. If they could get 13 people in Toronto Danforth and possibly 19 people in the little town of Gibsons, BC, let's see what we can do here in Kitchener Centre. But we'll need your help!<span style="text-decoration: underline;"></span><span style="text-decoration: underline;"></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color: black; background: white;">A local supporter has agreed to book a room in her condo that can fit more than his campaign office and he is to meet us there (providing he doesn't cancel the last minute).</span><span style="text-decoration: underline;"></span><span style="text-decoration: underline;"></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">If you haven't visited Raj before, and he wouldn't recognize you as one of the key organizers of our door hanger/flyer/ad campaign, that is even better. <span style="text-decoration: underline;"></span><span style="text-decoration: underline;"></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">If you have a spouse or friend who is supportive of this cause and might like to attend and can spare the 30 minutes, invite them. (And let me know who to expect and how to contact them).<span style="text-decoration: underline;"></span><span style="text-decoration: underline;"></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">We will be talking to Raj about why a <a target="_blank" href="https://nationalcitizensassembly.ca/">National Citizens' Assembly on Electoral Reform</a> to take this out of the hands of politicians a good idea :)<span style="text-decoration: underline;"></span><span style="text-decoration: underline;"></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">The CBC just released archival footage of former Prime MInister, Pierre Trudeau stating his view that Canada should move on the recommendations of the Pepin-Robarts Commission report (1977) and institute proportional representation. Trudeau makes some excellent points!<span style="text-decoration: underline;"></span><span style="text-decoration: underline;"></span></p>
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