[fvc-wat-disc] Essays on Voting Systems

Les Kadar leskadar at rogers.com
Fri Jun 3 07:08:40 EDT 2011


Thanks for all of this information.
The difficulty in all of this is that the people to convince are those in 
office who don't want to hear it.
As a system change has impacts on those that are in it, namely the elected 
officials, any changes to their status, power or influence will be viewed 
with complete negativity and spun to the public as counterproductive to the 
good of the country.

While I appreciate the efforts of educating the public and enrolling as many 
voters as possible, I maintain that it is not them that we need to harness 
but those in office.

I look at the latest example of misuse of authority in the Regional vote 
that just happened this week where Regional councillors voted down the 
ability of the public to hold a " referendum " on the LRT proposal that has 
been worked on by regional staff now for over 8 years.
This right for us to advise those we have apparently elected to " represent 
" not " lead " has been taken away by the very people we elected to 
represent us.
It just magnifies my thinking on who to convince to afford us the right to a 
fair vote in this country.

Les Kadar.

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> Thanks for this, Bob - these articles are fabulous! They are going to help 
> me
> understand and explain things with more confidence. How do I contact Paul? 
> I
> don't think I have his email anymore. I would like to put some of his 
> articles
> into a handout or chapbook to give to people interested in learning more 
> about
> MMP.
>
> Anita
>
> Quoting Bob Jonkman <bjonkman at sobac.com>:
>
>> Hi all:  At last week's event someone asked me what those different 
>> voting
>> system are all about. Paul Nijjar, an active member of Fair Vote Waterloo 
>> in
>> 2007 did considerable research into the system known as "Mixed Member
>> Proportional", which he published the summer before the 2007 provincial
>> referendum on electoral reform. MMP is the system proposed by the Ontario
>> Citizens' Coalition to replace the existing First Past The Post system. 
>> Of
>> course, the 2007 referendum outcome was not in favour of change.
>>
>> In one article Paul lists a glossary of voting system types, which might 
>> be a
>> good place to start if you just need a quick overview of the different
>> systems ( http://pnijjar.livejournal.com/26695.html ). The other articles
>> give in-depth information into the Mixed Member Proportional system.
>>
>> --Bob.
>>
>>
>> MMP 102: Coalitions vs. Minority Governments
>> http://pnijjar.livejournal.com/21516.html
>>
>> MMP 102: Three Party Systems and Bob Rae's Government
>> http://pnijjar.livejournal.com/21860.html
>>
>> MMP 102: MMP vs. Parallel Systems
>> http://pnijjar.livejournal.com/22127.html
>>
>> MMP 102: Effects of the list seat ratio
>> http://pnijjar.livejournal.com/22521.html
>>
>> MMP 102: Power Diffusion
>> http://pnijjar.livejournal.com/22619.html
>>
>> MMP 102: No Confidence Votes and MMP
>> http://pnijjar.livejournal.com/23002.html
>>
>> MMP 102: Effects of the 3% Threshold
>> http://pnijjar.livejournal.com/23271.html
>>
>> MMP 102: False Dichotomies
>> http://pnijjar.livejournal.com/23307.html
>>
>> MMP 102: Party Life Cycles
>> http://pnijjar.livejournal.com/24316.html
>>
>> MMP 102: Why Closed Lists?
>> http://pnijjar.livejournal.com/24378.html
>>
>> MMP 102: A Tired Rehashing of Identity Politics
>> http://pnijjar.livejournal.com/24675.html
>>
>> MMP 102: Party Hackery in Three Paragraphs
>> http://pnijjar.livejournal.com/25303.html
>>
>> MMP 102: What do List Members Do?
>> http://pnijjar.livejournal.com/25597.html
>>
>> MMP 102: Contradictory Arguments
>> http://pnijjar.livejournal.com/26614.html
>>
>> MMP 102: Glossary (aka Lazy Entry)
>> http://pnijjar.livejournal.com/26695.html
>>
>> MMP 102: Are people happier under MMP?
>> http://pnijjar.livejournal.com/28087.html
>>
>> MMP 102: Things that will annoy you
>> http://pnijjar.livejournal.com/28648.html
>>
>> MMP 102: Why vote for MMP?
>> http://pnijjar.livejournal.com/28827.html
>>
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> Anita
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