[fvc-wat-disc] The Government Wants To Know!

Wed Aug 3 18:41:56 EDT 2016

I disagree.  I expect Bob & I were the only people paying attention to 
the Harper Government Copyright Consultation.  To me, that is the gold 
standard of consultations.  They had online stuff but they also did a 
physical cross Canada dog & pony show.

If the ERRE public dog & pony was coming here it would be NEWS.

Not only that it would be a sure thing, unlike your 
"promised/threatened/dangled" Ministerial visit. What happens if the 
Minister says, "I'll be there this afternoon at 1pm tomorrow and I can 
give you 15 minutes.
(Which may be overly generous as lately I've heard of consultations 
where people are allowed all of 3 minutes to speak).

Even if there is enough notice to round up people, the Minister coming 
here for a private audience would be virtually invisible.
Even a public whistlestop a would rate a photo op.  If we're really 
really lucky it might rate a sound bite on the local news.

Waterloo Region is a hotbed of electoral reformers.  This is EXACTLY the 
kind of place the committee SHOULD come, because it can hear from a 
bunch of ordinary people

As to where they *are* going: talk about disproportionality.

Ontario, the province with the largest population gets all of 1 
committee visit when the smaller Québec gets 3.

Not fair.

Regards,
Laurel

On 08/03/2016 03:50 PM, Jennifer Ross wrote:
> Not at all.  The committee stuff goes to her.  We skip a step.
>
> On Wed, Aug 3, 2016 at 3:48 PM, Laurel L. Russwurm 
> <laurel.l at russwurm.org <mailto:laurel.l at russwurm.org>> wrote:
>
>     Maryam Monsef herself but no committee?? That SUCKS. It is not the
>     same thing at all.
>
>     regards,
>     steamed Laurel
>
>
>
>
>     On 08/03/2016 03:43 PM, Jennifer Ross wrote:
>>     I believe that is because Maryam Monsef is going to do Waterloo
>>     Region herself.  Or so we keep being promised/threatened/dangled
>>     with.
>>
>>     On Wed, Aug 3, 2016 at 3:22 PM, Laurel L. Russwurm
>>     <laurel.l at russwurm.org <mailto:laurel.l at russwurm.org>> wrote:
>>
>>         It certainly looks as though the ERRE Committee will NOT be
>>         stopping in Waterloo Region:
>>
>>             It was agreed, — That, in relation to the study of viable
>>             alternate voting systems, mandatory voting and online
>>             voting, the following travel budgets be adopted:
>>
>>             • Regina (SK), St-Pierre Jolys (MB), Winnipeg (MB),
>>             Toronto (ON), Québec (QC), and Joliette (QC): $ 137,111.80
>>
>>             • Whitehorse (YT), Victoria (BC), Vancouver (BC), LeDuc
>>             (AB), Yellowknife(NT): $ 162,667.05
>>
>>             • Montréal (QC), St. John’s (NL), Halifax (NS),
>>             Charlottetown (PE), Fredericton (NB) $ 130,711.80
>>
>>             • Iqaluit ((NU) $ 109 517.50.
>>
>>             It was agreed, — That, should the Board of Internal
>>             Economy adopt these budgets, the Analysts and the Clerks,
>>             in consultation with the Chair, prepare a news release
>>             for publication on the Committee’s website, announcing
>>             the cities that will be visited.
>>
>>             It was agreed, — That, the Committee hire two (2)
>>             research assistants for the period of June 21 to December
>>             1, 2016, for a total amount not to exceed $ 58,300.00.
>>
>>             It was agreed, — That, a proposed budget in the amount of
>>             $ 80,250.00 for the study of electoral reform be adopted.
>>
>>         http://www.parl.gc.ca/HousePublications/Publication.aspx?Language=e&Mode=1&Parl=42&Ses=1&DocId=8396591
>>
>>         If they were stopping once in each province & territory it
>>         would be different, but the 17 stops include
>>
>>         3 in Quebec
>>         2 in Manitoba
>>
>>         but only ONE in Ontario.
>>
>>         What now?
>>
>>         Regards,
>>         Laurel
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>         On 08/01/2016 10:34 PM, Sharon Sommerville wrote:
>>>         Hello FairVoting Friends,
>>>
>>>         The Electoral Reform Committee wants to hear from Canadians,
>>>         we have an amazing opportunity to let our government know
>>>         that we want PR and why.
>>>
>>>         COMMUNITY DIALOGUES
>>>
>>>         The Electoral Reform Committee is asking Canadians to
>>>         participate in community dialogues and submit reports to
>>>         them on what is important in an electoral system and why.
>>>
>>>         Starting on Tuesday, August 9th and every Tuesday at 6:30
>>>         from till October we will be at the Queen Street Commons (43
>>>         Queen Street South) in Kitchener to facilitate conversations
>>>         about electoral reform.  We will talk together, record the
>>>         conversation and submit it to the government. Join us for a
>>>         coffee and a chat.
>>>
>>>         PR IN THE BACKYARD
>>>
>>>         On Friday, August 12th at 7 pm join Catherine Fife, MPP for
>>>         Waterloo to learn more about PR. There will be a
>>>         presentation, comments from Catherine, discussion groups and
>>>         a Q & A. Learn, discuss and debate in a pleasant, informal
>>>         backyard setting.
>>>
>>>         Hope to see you soon!,
>>>
>>>         Best regards,
>>>         Sharon
>>>         for FVC-WR
>>>
>>>
>>>
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