[fvc-wat-disc] fvc-wat-disc Digest, Vol 93, Issue 80

Sun Dec 25 17:44:33 EST 2016

thanks for the Link, Eleanor!

On 25 December 2016 at 13:36, Eleanor Grant <eleanor7000 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Merry Christmas all -
>
> Thanks Donald F for the hilarious Grinch poem! Here's a link for sharing
> it:
> http://johnpavlovitz.com/2016/12/05/how-the-trump-stole-america/
>
> Eleanor
>
> On 25 Dec 2016 09:27, <fvc-wat-disc-request at listserv.thinkers.org> wrote:
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>>    1. Re: Jenn's letter in today's Record (cdcampbell9 at gmail.com)
>>    2. A Christmas Poem for PR (Sharon Sommerville)
>>    3. Re: A Christmas Poem for PR (Donald Fraser)
>>    4. Re: A Christmas Poem for PR (Jennifer Ross)
>>
>>
>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> From: cdcampbell9 at gmail.com
>> To: fvc-wat-disc at listserv.thinkers.org
>> Cc:
>> Date: Sat, 24 Dec 2016 13:05:04 -0800 (PST)
>> Subject: Re: [fvc-wat-disc] Jenn's letter in today's Record
>> Good work. Jenn. It's crucial to rebut lies by smug, right wing columnists
>>
>> Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone.
>> *From: *Sharon Sommerville
>> *Sent: *Friday, December 23, 2016 6:35 PM
>> *To: *fvc-wat-disc at listserv.thinkers.org
>> *Reply To: *FVC Waterloo Region Discussion
>> *Subject: *[fvc-wat-disc] Jenn's letter in today's Record
>>
>> Hello Everyone,
>>
>> Thanks to Jenn we have a letter in today's Record which will be followed
>> up next week with Donald's letter.
>>
>> Here is Jenn's letter:
>>
>> http://www.therecord.com/opinion-story/7033939-voting-systems/
>>
>> Best wishes,
>> Sharon
>>
>>
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>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> From: Sharon Sommerville <sharonsommerville at gmail.com>
>> To: "fvc-wat-disc at listserv.thinkers.org" <fvc-wat-disc at listserv.
>> thinkers.org>, "fvc-wat-announce at listserv.thinkers.org" <
>> fvc-wat-announce at listserv.thinkers.org>
>> Cc:
>> Date: Sat, 24 Dec 2016 17:46:33 -0500
>> Subject: [fvc-wat-disc] A Christmas Poem for PR
>> Hello & Season's Greetings,
>>
>> On behalf of the Board of FairVoteCanada - Waterloo Region, I would like
>> to extend our very best wishes to you and yours for a joyful & safe holiday
>> season.
>>
>> Here is a little holiday cheer which we hope you will enjoy. This
>> wonderful poem came from Ann Remnant in Alberta.
>>
>> Oh Liberal MP, oh Liberal dear
>>
>> Pull up a chair and lend me your ear.
>>
>> My tale is short, I won't keep you long
>>
>> Just a wee ask to fix a big wrong.
>>
>>
>> Twas not long ago Trudeau made clear
>>
>> FPTP had had its last year.
>>
>> The people cheered and voted in trust
>>
>> that Trudeau's Liberals would fix the unjust.
>>
>>
>> The committee studied, all summer through
>>
>> With a survey, emails, and many a backyard do.
>>
>> A PR system was the favoured choice
>>
>> of committee experts and the peoples' voice.
>>
>>
>> So, quite shocking it was to hear Trudeau say
>>
>> Hey! 'Canadians actually think I'm okay'
>>
>> Then, Monsef to a room full of PR support!
>>
>> “There's no consensus” I regret to report.
>>
>>
>> It's truly awesome to be a Liberal MP
>>
>> devoting yourself to the entire country.
>>
>> Pardon, I do not intend to insult or provoke
>>
>> But, be wary, your power depends on our vote.
>>
>>
>> The time is short and the task is great
>>
>> To keep the promise our PM did state.
>>
>> Please give thought, 'mid the season's jollity
>> To how you will fix our democracy.
>>
>>
>> All the best!
>>
>> Sharon
>> for FVC-WR
>>
>>
>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> From: Donald Fraser <donaldafraser at gmail.com>
>> To: FVC Waterloo Region Discussion <fvc-wat-disc at listserv.thinkers.org>
>> Cc: "fvc-wat-announce at listserv.thinkers.org" <fvc-wat-announce at listserv.
>> thinkers.org>
>> Date: Sun, 25 Dec 2016 08:53:00 -0500
>> Subject: Re: [fvc-wat-disc] A Christmas Poem for PR
>> On the topic Christmas political poems ... here is a sobering one
>> regarding the elephant-in-the-room election result south of the border ...
>> in the end it's a plug for PR
>>
>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>> +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>
>> Trump out-grinches the Grinch
>> =======================
>>
>> HOW THE TRUMP STOLE AMERICA (apologies to Dr Seuss)
>>
>> By John Pavlovitz
>>
>> In a land where the states are united, they claim,
>> in a sky-scraping tower adorned with his name,
>> lived a terrible, horrible, devious chump,
>> the bright orange miscreant known as the Trump.
>>
>> This Trump he was mean, such a mean little man,
>> with the tiniest heart and two tinier hands,
>> and a thin set of lips etched in permanent curl,
>> and a sneer and a scowl and contempt for the world.
>>
>> He looked down from his perch and he grinned ear to ear,
>> and he thought, “I could steal the election this year!
>> It’d be rather simple, it’s so easily won,
>> I’ll just make them believe that their best days are done!
>> Yes, I’ll make them believe that it’s all gone to Hell,
>> and I’ll be Jerk Messiah and their souls they will sell.
>>
>> And I’ll use lots of words disconnected from truth,
>> but I’ll say them with style so they won’t ask for proof.
>> I’ll toss out random platitudes, phrases, and such,
>> They’re so raised on fake news that it won’t matter much!
>> They won’t question the how to, the what, why, or when,
>> I will make their America great once again!”
>>
>> The Trump told them to fear, they should fear he would say,
>> “They’ve all come for your jobs, they’ll all take them away.
>> You should fear every Muslim and Mexican too,
>> every brown, black, and tan one, everyone who votes blue.”
>>
>> And he fooled all the Christians, he fooled them indeed,
>> He just trotted out Jesus, that’s all Jesus folk need.
>> And celebrity preachers they all crowned him as king,
>> Tripping over themselves just to kiss the Trump’s ring.
>>
>> And he spoke only lies just as if they were true,
>> Until they believed all of those lies were true too.
>> He repeated and Tweeted and he blustered and spit,
>> And he mislead and fibbed—and he just made up sh*t.
>>
>> And the media laughed but they printed each line,
>> thinking “He’ll never will win, in the end we’ll be fine.”
>> So they chased every headline, bold typed every claim,
>> ‘Till the fake news and real news they looked just the same.
>>
>> And the scared folk who listened, they devoured each word,
>> Yes, they ate it all up every word that they heard,
>> petrified that their freedom was under attack,
>> trusting Trump he would take their America back.
>> From the gays and from ISIS, he’d take it all back,
>> Take it back from the Democrats, fat cats, and blacks.
>> And so hook, line, and sinker they all took the bait,
>> all his lies about making America great.
>>
>> Now the Pant-suited One she was smart and prepared,
>> she was brilliant and steady but none of them cared,
>> no they cared not to see all the work that she’d done,
>> or the fact they the Trump had not yet done thing one.
>> They could only shout “Emails!”, yes “Emails!” they’d shout,
>> because Fox News had told them—and Fox News had clout.
>> And the Pant-suited One she was slandered no end,
>> and a lie became truth she could never defend.
>> And the Trump watched it all go according to plan—
>> a strong woman eclipsed by an insecure man.
>>
>> And November the 8th arrived, finally it came,
>> like a slow-moving storm but it came just the same.
>> And Tuesday became Wednesday as those days will do,
>> And the night turned to morning and the nightmare came true,
>> With millions of non-voters still in their beds,
>> Yes, the Trump he had done it, just like he had said.
>>
>> And the Trumpers they trumped, how they trumped when he won,
>> All the racists and bigots; deplorable ones,
>> they crawled out from the woodwork, came out to raise Hell,
>> they came out to be hateful and hurtful as well.
>> With slurs and with road signs, with spray paint and Tweets,
>> with death threats to neighbors and taunts on the street.
>> And the grossest of grossness they hurled on their peers,
>> while the Trump he said zilch—for the first time in years.
>>
>> But he Tweeted at Hamilton, he Tweeted the Times,
>> And he trolled Alec Baldwin a few hundred times,
>> and he pouted a pout like a petulant kid,
>> thinking this is what Presidents actually did,
>> thinking he could still be a perpetual jerk,
>> terrified to learn he had to actually work,
>> work for every American, not just for a few,
>> not just for the white ones—there was much more to do.
>> He now worked for the Muslims and Mexicans too,
>> for the brown, black, and tan ones, and the ones who vote blue.
>> They were all now his bosses, now they all had a say,
>> and those nasty pant-suited ones were here to stay.
>> And the Trump he soon realized that he didn’t win,
>> He had gotten the thing—and the thing now had him.
>>
>> And it turned out the Trump was a little too late,
>> for America was already more than quite great,
>> not because of the sameness, the opposite’s true,
>> It’s greatness far more than just red, white, and blue,
>> It’s straight, gay, and female—it’s Gentile and Jew,
>> It’s Transgender and Christian and Atheist too.
>> It’s Asians, Caucasians of every kind,
>> The disabled and abled, the deaf and the blind,
>> It’s immigrants, Muslims, and brave refugees,
>> It’s Liberals with bleeding hearts fixed to their sleeves.
>> And we are all staying, we’re staying right here,
>> and we’ll be the great bane of the Trump for four years.
>> And we’ll be twice as loud as the loudness of hate,
>> be the greatness that makes our America great.
>> And the Trump’s loudest boasts they won’t ever obscure,
>> over two million more of us—voted for her.
>>
>>
>> On 24 December 2016 at 17:46, Sharon Sommerville <
>> sharonsommerville at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hello & Season's Greetings,
>>>
>>> On behalf of the Board of FairVoteCanada - Waterloo Region, I would like
>>> to extend our very best wishes to you and yours for a joyful & safe holiday
>>> season.
>>>
>>> Here is a little holiday cheer which we hope you will enjoy. This
>>> wonderful poem came from Ann Remnant in Alberta.
>>>
>>> Oh Liberal MP, oh Liberal dear
>>>
>>> Pull up a chair and lend me your ear.
>>>
>>> My tale is short, I won't keep you long
>>>
>>> Just a wee ask to fix a big wrong.
>>>
>>>
>>> Twas not long ago Trudeau made clear
>>>
>>> FPTP had had its last year.
>>>
>>> The people cheered and voted in trust
>>>
>>> that Trudeau's Liberals would fix the unjust.
>>>
>>>
>>> The committee studied, all summer through
>>>
>>> With a survey, emails, and many a backyard do.
>>>
>>> A PR system was the favoured choice
>>>
>>> of committee experts and the peoples' voice.
>>>
>>>
>>> So, quite shocking it was to hear Trudeau say
>>>
>>> Hey! 'Canadians actually think I'm okay'
>>>
>>> Then, Monsef to a room full of PR support!
>>>
>>> “There's no consensus” I regret to report.
>>>
>>>
>>> It's truly awesome to be a Liberal MP
>>>
>>> devoting yourself to the entire country.
>>>
>>> Pardon, I do not intend to insult or provoke
>>>
>>> But, be wary, your power depends on our vote.
>>>
>>>
>>> The time is short and the task is great
>>>
>>> To keep the promise our PM did state.
>>>
>>> Please give thought, 'mid the season's jollity
>>> To how you will fix our democracy.
>>>
>>>
>>> All the best!
>>>
>>> Sharon
>>> for FVC-WR
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> This is the fvc-wat-disc mailing list
>>> Post a message: fvc-wat-disc at listserv.thinkers.org
>>> Unsubscribe: http://listserv.thinkers.org/m
>>> ailman/listinfo/fvc-wat-disc_listserv.thinkers.org
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>>>
>>
>>
>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> From: Jennifer Ross <2jennross at gmail.com>
>> To: FVC Waterloo Region Discussion <fvc-wat-disc at listserv.thinkers.org>
>> Cc: "fvc-wat-announce at listserv.thinkers.org" <fvc-wat-announce at listserv.
>> thinkers.org>
>> Date: Sun, 25 Dec 2016 09:26:38 -0500
>> Subject: Re: [fvc-wat-disc] A Christmas Poem for PR
>> That was really, really good!  Thanks for posting it, Donald, in spite of
>> my determination to not follow U.S. politics--an impossibility now, I'm
>> afraid.
>>
>> Merry Christmas to all!  Unless you'd prefer a Happy Holiday :)
>>
>> Jenn
>>
>> On Sun, Dec 25, 2016 at 8:53 AM, Donald Fraser <donaldafraser at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On the topic Christmas political poems ... here is a sobering one
>>> regarding the elephant-in-the-room election result south of the border ...
>>> in the end it's a plug for PR
>>>
>>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>> +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>>
>>> Trump out-grinches the Grinch
>>> =======================
>>>
>>> HOW THE TRUMP STOLE AMERICA (apologies to Dr Seuss)
>>>
>>> By John Pavlovitz
>>>
>>> In a land where the states are united, they claim,
>>> in a sky-scraping tower adorned with his name,
>>> lived a terrible, horrible, devious chump,
>>> the bright orange miscreant known as the Trump.
>>>
>>> This Trump he was mean, such a mean little man,
>>> with the tiniest heart and two tinier hands,
>>> and a thin set of lips etched in permanent curl,
>>> and a sneer and a scowl and contempt for the world.
>>>
>>> He looked down from his perch and he grinned ear to ear,
>>> and he thought, “I could steal the election this year!
>>> It’d be rather simple, it’s so easily won,
>>> I’ll just make them believe that their best days are done!
>>> Yes, I’ll make them believe that it’s all gone to Hell,
>>> and I’ll be Jerk Messiah and their souls they will sell.
>>>
>>> And I’ll use lots of words disconnected from truth,
>>> but I’ll say them with style so they won’t ask for proof.
>>> I’ll toss out random platitudes, phrases, and such,
>>> They’re so raised on fake news that it won’t matter much!
>>> They won’t question the how to, the what, why, or when,
>>> I will make their America great once again!”
>>>
>>> The Trump told them to fear, they should fear he would say,
>>> “They’ve all come for your jobs, they’ll all take them away.
>>> You should fear every Muslim and Mexican too,
>>> every brown, black, and tan one, everyone who votes blue.”
>>>
>>> And he fooled all the Christians, he fooled them indeed,
>>> He just trotted out Jesus, that’s all Jesus folk need.
>>> And celebrity preachers they all crowned him as king,
>>> Tripping over themselves just to kiss the Trump’s ring.
>>>
>>> And he spoke only lies just as if they were true,
>>> Until they believed all of those lies were true too.
>>> He repeated and Tweeted and he blustered and spit,
>>> And he mislead and fibbed—and he just made up sh*t.
>>>
>>> And the media laughed but they printed each line,
>>> thinking “He’ll never will win, in the end we’ll be fine.”
>>> So they chased every headline, bold typed every claim,
>>> ‘Till the fake news and real news they looked just the same.
>>>
>>> And the scared folk who listened, they devoured each word,
>>> Yes, they ate it all up every word that they heard,
>>> petrified that their freedom was under attack,
>>> trusting Trump he would take their America back.
>>> From the gays and from ISIS, he’d take it all back,
>>> Take it back from the Democrats, fat cats, and blacks.
>>> And so hook, line, and sinker they all took the bait,
>>> all his lies about making America great.
>>>
>>> Now the Pant-suited One she was smart and prepared,
>>> she was brilliant and steady but none of them cared,
>>> no they cared not to see all the work that she’d done,
>>> or the fact they the Trump had not yet done thing one.
>>> They could only shout “Emails!”, yes “Emails!” they’d shout,
>>> because Fox News had told them—and Fox News had clout.
>>> And the Pant-suited One she was slandered no end,
>>> and a lie became truth she could never defend.
>>> And the Trump watched it all go according to plan—
>>> a strong woman eclipsed by an insecure man.
>>>
>>> And November the 8th arrived, finally it came,
>>> like a slow-moving storm but it came just the same.
>>> And Tuesday became Wednesday as those days will do,
>>> And the night turned to morning and the nightmare came true,
>>> With millions of non-voters still in their beds,
>>> Yes, the Trump he had done it, just like he had said.
>>>
>>> And the Trumpers they trumped, how they trumped when he won,
>>> All the racists and bigots; deplorable ones,
>>> they crawled out from the woodwork, came out to raise Hell,
>>> they came out to be hateful and hurtful as well.
>>> With slurs and with road signs, with spray paint and Tweets,
>>> with death threats to neighbors and taunts on the street.
>>> And the grossest of grossness they hurled on their peers,
>>> while the Trump he said zilch—for the first time in years.
>>>
>>> But he Tweeted at Hamilton, he Tweeted the Times,
>>> And he trolled Alec Baldwin a few hundred times,
>>> and he pouted a pout like a petulant kid,
>>> thinking this is what Presidents actually did,
>>> thinking he could still be a perpetual jerk,
>>> terrified to learn he had to actually work,
>>> work for every American, not just for a few,
>>> not just for the white ones—there was much more to do.
>>> He now worked for the Muslims and Mexicans too,
>>> for the brown, black, and tan ones, and the ones who vote blue.
>>> They were all now his bosses, now they all had a say,
>>> and those nasty pant-suited ones were here to stay.
>>> And the Trump he soon realized that he didn’t win,
>>> He had gotten the thing—and the thing now had him.
>>>
>>> And it turned out the Trump was a little too late,
>>> for America was already more than quite great,
>>> not because of the sameness, the opposite’s true,
>>> It’s greatness far more than just red, white, and blue,
>>> It’s straight, gay, and female—it’s Gentile and Jew,
>>> It’s Transgender and Christian and Atheist too.
>>> It’s Asians, Caucasians of every kind,
>>> The disabled and abled, the deaf and the blind,
>>> It’s immigrants, Muslims, and brave refugees,
>>> It’s Liberals with bleeding hearts fixed to their sleeves.
>>> And we are all staying, we’re staying right here,
>>> and we’ll be the great bane of the Trump for four years.
>>> And we’ll be twice as loud as the loudness of hate,
>>> be the greatness that makes our America great.
>>> And the Trump’s loudest boasts they won’t ever obscure,
>>> over two million more of us—voted for her.
>>>
>>>
>>> On 24 December 2016 at 17:46, Sharon Sommerville <
>>> sharonsommerville at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hello & Season's Greetings,
>>>>
>>>> On behalf of the Board of FairVoteCanada - Waterloo Region, I would
>>>> like to extend our very best wishes to you and yours for a joyful & safe
>>>> holiday season.
>>>>
>>>> Here is a little holiday cheer which we hope you will enjoy. This
>>>> wonderful poem came from Ann Remnant in Alberta.
>>>>
>>>> Oh Liberal MP, oh Liberal dear
>>>>
>>>> Pull up a chair and lend me your ear.
>>>>
>>>> My tale is short, I won't keep you long
>>>>
>>>> Just a wee ask to fix a big wrong.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Twas not long ago Trudeau made clear
>>>>
>>>> FPTP had had its last year.
>>>>
>>>> The people cheered and voted in trust
>>>>
>>>> that Trudeau's Liberals would fix the unjust.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> The committee studied, all summer through
>>>>
>>>> With a survey, emails, and many a backyard do.
>>>>
>>>> A PR system was the favoured choice
>>>>
>>>> of committee experts and the peoples' voice.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> So, quite shocking it was to hear Trudeau say
>>>>
>>>> Hey! 'Canadians actually think I'm okay'
>>>>
>>>> Then, Monsef to a room full of PR support!
>>>>
>>>> “There's no consensus” I regret to report.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> It's truly awesome to be a Liberal MP
>>>>
>>>> devoting yourself to the entire country.
>>>>
>>>> Pardon, I do not intend to insult or provoke
>>>>
>>>> But, be wary, your power depends on our vote.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> The time is short and the task is great
>>>>
>>>> To keep the promise our PM did state.
>>>>
>>>> Please give thought, 'mid the season's jollity
>>>> To how you will fix our democracy.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> All the best!
>>>>
>>>> Sharon
>>>> for FVC-WR
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> This is the fvc-wat-disc mailing list
>>>> Post a message: fvc-wat-disc at listserv.thinkers.org
>>>> Unsubscribe: http://listserv.thinkers.org/m
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>>>>
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