[fvc-wat-disc] fvc-wat-disc Digest, Vol 93, Issue 80

Eleanor Grant eleanor7000 at gmail.com
Sun Dec 25 13:36:30 EST 2016 

Merry Christmas all -

Thanks Donald F for the hilarious Grinch poem! Here's a link for sharing
it:
http://johnpavlovitz.com/2016/12/05/how-the-trump-stole-america/

Eleanor

On 25 Dec 2016 09:27, <fvc-wat-disc-request at listserv.thinkers.org> wrote:

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>    1. Re: Jenn's letter in today's Record (cdcampbell9 at gmail.com)
>    2. A Christmas Poem for PR (Sharon Sommerville)
>    3. Re: A Christmas Poem for PR (Donald Fraser)
>    4. Re: A Christmas Poem for PR (Jennifer Ross)
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> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: cdcampbell9 at gmail.com
> To: fvc-wat-disc at listserv.thinkers.org
> Cc:
> Date: Sat, 24 Dec 2016 13:05:04 -0800 (PST)
> Subject: Re: [fvc-wat-disc] Jenn's letter in today's Record
> Good work. Jenn. It's crucial to rebut lies by smug, right wing columnists
>
> Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone.
> *From: *Sharon Sommerville
> *Sent: *Friday, December 23, 2016 6:35 PM
> *To: *fvc-wat-disc at listserv.thinkers.org
> *Reply To: *FVC Waterloo Region Discussion
> *Subject: *[fvc-wat-disc] Jenn's letter in today's Record
>
> Hello Everyone,
>
> Thanks to Jenn we have a letter in today's Record which will be followed
> up next week with Donald's letter.
>
> Here is Jenn's letter:
>
> http://www.therecord.com/opinion-story/7033939-voting-systems/
>
> Best wishes,
> Sharon
>
>
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> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Sharon Sommerville <sharonsommerville at gmail.com>
> To: "fvc-wat-disc at listserv.thinkers.org" <
> fvc-wat-disc at listserv.thinkers.org>, "
> fvc-wat-announce at listserv.thinkers.org" <
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> Cc:
> Date: Sat, 24 Dec 2016 17:46:33 -0500
> Subject: [fvc-wat-disc] A Christmas Poem for PR
> Hello & Season's Greetings,
>
> On behalf of the Board of FairVoteCanada - Waterloo Region, I would like
> to extend our very best wishes to you and yours for a joyful & safe holiday
> season.
>
> Here is a little holiday cheer which we hope you will enjoy. This
> wonderful poem came from Ann Remnant in Alberta.
>
> Oh Liberal MP, oh Liberal dear
>
> Pull up a chair and lend me your ear.
>
> My tale is short, I won't keep you long
>
> Just a wee ask to fix a big wrong.
>
>
> Twas not long ago Trudeau made clear
>
> FPTP had had its last year.
>
> The people cheered and voted in trust
>
> that Trudeau's Liberals would fix the unjust.
>
>
> The committee studied, all summer through
>
> With a survey, emails, and many a backyard do.
>
> A PR system was the favoured choice
>
> of committee experts and the peoples' voice.
>
>
> So, quite shocking it was to hear Trudeau say
>
> Hey! 'Canadians actually think I'm okay'
>
> Then, Monsef to a room full of PR support!
>
> “There's no consensus” I regret to report.
>
>
> It's truly awesome to be a Liberal MP
>
> devoting yourself to the entire country.
>
> Pardon, I do not intend to insult or provoke
>
> But, be wary, your power depends on our vote.
>
>
> The time is short and the task is great
>
> To keep the promise our PM did state.
>
> Please give thought, 'mid the season's jollity
> To how you will fix our democracy.
>
>
> All the best!
>
> Sharon
> for FVC-WR
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Donald Fraser <donaldafraser at gmail.com>
> To: FVC Waterloo Region Discussion <fvc-wat-disc at listserv.thinkers.org>
> Cc: "fvc-wat-announce at listserv.thinkers.org" <
> fvc-wat-announce at listserv.thinkers.org>
> Date: Sun, 25 Dec 2016 08:53:00 -0500
> Subject: Re: [fvc-wat-disc] A Christmas Poem for PR
> On the topic Christmas political poems ... here is a sobering one
> regarding the elephant-in-the-room election result south of the border ...
> in the end it's a plug for PR
>
> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>
> Trump out-grinches the Grinch
> =======================
>
> HOW THE TRUMP STOLE AMERICA (apologies to Dr Seuss)
>
> By John Pavlovitz
>
> In a land where the states are united, they claim,
> in a sky-scraping tower adorned with his name,
> lived a terrible, horrible, devious chump,
> the bright orange miscreant known as the Trump.
>
> This Trump he was mean, such a mean little man,
> with the tiniest heart and two tinier hands,
> and a thin set of lips etched in permanent curl,
> and a sneer and a scowl and contempt for the world.
>
> He looked down from his perch and he grinned ear to ear,
> and he thought, “I could steal the election this year!
> It’d be rather simple, it’s so easily won,
> I’ll just make them believe that their best days are done!
> Yes, I’ll make them believe that it’s all gone to Hell,
> and I’ll be Jerk Messiah and their souls they will sell.
>
> And I’ll use lots of words disconnected from truth,
> but I’ll say them with style so they won’t ask for proof.
> I’ll toss out random platitudes, phrases, and such,
> They’re so raised on fake news that it won’t matter much!
> They won’t question the how to, the what, why, or when,
> I will make their America great once again!”
>
> The Trump told them to fear, they should fear he would say,
> “They’ve all come for your jobs, they’ll all take them away.
> You should fear every Muslim and Mexican too,
> every brown, black, and tan one, everyone who votes blue.”
>
> And he fooled all the Christians, he fooled them indeed,
> He just trotted out Jesus, that’s all Jesus folk need.
> And celebrity preachers they all crowned him as king,
> Tripping over themselves just to kiss the Trump’s ring.
>
> And he spoke only lies just as if they were true,
> Until they believed all of those lies were true too.
> He repeated and Tweeted and he blustered and spit,
> And he mislead and fibbed—and he just made up sh*t.
>
> And the media laughed but they printed each line,
> thinking “He’ll never will win, in the end we’ll be fine.”
> So they chased every headline, bold typed every claim,
> ‘Till the fake news and real news they looked just the same.
>
> And the scared folk who listened, they devoured each word,
> Yes, they ate it all up every word that they heard,
> petrified that their freedom was under attack,
> trusting Trump he would take their America back.
> From the gays and from ISIS, he’d take it all back,
> Take it back from the Democrats, fat cats, and blacks.
> And so hook, line, and sinker they all took the bait,
> all his lies about making America great.
>
> Now the Pant-suited One she was smart and prepared,
> she was brilliant and steady but none of them cared,
> no they cared not to see all the work that she’d done,
> or the fact they the Trump had not yet done thing one.
> They could only shout “Emails!”, yes “Emails!” they’d shout,
> because Fox News had told them—and Fox News had clout.
> And the Pant-suited One she was slandered no end,
> and a lie became truth she could never defend.
> And the Trump watched it all go according to plan—
> a strong woman eclipsed by an insecure man.
>
> And November the 8th arrived, finally it came,
> like a slow-moving storm but it came just the same.
> And Tuesday became Wednesday as those days will do,
> And the night turned to morning and the nightmare came true,
> With millions of non-voters still in their beds,
> Yes, the Trump he had done it, just like he had said.
>
> And the Trumpers they trumped, how they trumped when he won,
> All the racists and bigots; deplorable ones,
> they crawled out from the woodwork, came out to raise Hell,
> they came out to be hateful and hurtful as well.
> With slurs and with road signs, with spray paint and Tweets,
> with death threats to neighbors and taunts on the street.
> And the grossest of grossness they hurled on their peers,
> while the Trump he said zilch—for the first time in years.
>
> But he Tweeted at Hamilton, he Tweeted the Times,
> And he trolled Alec Baldwin a few hundred times,
> and he pouted a pout like a petulant kid,
> thinking this is what Presidents actually did,
> thinking he could still be a perpetual jerk,
> terrified to learn he had to actually work,
> work for every American, not just for a few,
> not just for the white ones—there was much more to do.
> He now worked for the Muslims and Mexicans too,
> for the brown, black, and tan ones, and the ones who vote blue.
> They were all now his bosses, now they all had a say,
> and those nasty pant-suited ones were here to stay.
> And the Trump he soon realized that he didn’t win,
> He had gotten the thing—and the thing now had him.
>
> And it turned out the Trump was a little too late,
> for America was already more than quite great,
> not because of the sameness, the opposite’s true,
> It’s greatness far more than just red, white, and blue,
> It’s straight, gay, and female—it’s Gentile and Jew,
> It’s Transgender and Christian and Atheist too.
> It’s Asians, Caucasians of every kind,
> The disabled and abled, the deaf and the blind,
> It’s immigrants, Muslims, and brave refugees,
> It’s Liberals with bleeding hearts fixed to their sleeves.
> And we are all staying, we’re staying right here,
> and we’ll be the great bane of the Trump for four years.
> And we’ll be twice as loud as the loudness of hate,
> be the greatness that makes our America great.
> And the Trump’s loudest boasts they won’t ever obscure,
> over two million more of us—voted for her.
>
>
> On 24 December 2016 at 17:46, Sharon Sommerville <
> sharonsommerville at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hello & Season's Greetings,
>>
>> On behalf of the Board of FairVoteCanada - Waterloo Region, I would like
>> to extend our very best wishes to you and yours for a joyful & safe holiday
>> season.
>>
>> Here is a little holiday cheer which we hope you will enjoy. This
>> wonderful poem came from Ann Remnant in Alberta.
>>
>> Oh Liberal MP, oh Liberal dear
>>
>> Pull up a chair and lend me your ear.
>>
>> My tale is short, I won't keep you long
>>
>> Just a wee ask to fix a big wrong.
>>
>>
>> Twas not long ago Trudeau made clear
>>
>> FPTP had had its last year.
>>
>> The people cheered and voted in trust
>>
>> that Trudeau's Liberals would fix the unjust.
>>
>>
>> The committee studied, all summer through
>>
>> With a survey, emails, and many a backyard do.
>>
>> A PR system was the favoured choice
>>
>> of committee experts and the peoples' voice.
>>
>>
>> So, quite shocking it was to hear Trudeau say
>>
>> Hey! 'Canadians actually think I'm okay'
>>
>> Then, Monsef to a room full of PR support!
>>
>> “There's no consensus” I regret to report.
>>
>>
>> It's truly awesome to be a Liberal MP
>>
>> devoting yourself to the entire country.
>>
>> Pardon, I do not intend to insult or provoke
>>
>> But, be wary, your power depends on our vote.
>>
>>
>> The time is short and the task is great
>>
>> To keep the promise our PM did state.
>>
>> Please give thought, 'mid the season's jollity
>> To how you will fix our democracy.
>>
>>
>> All the best!
>>
>> Sharon
>> for FVC-WR
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> This is the fvc-wat-disc mailing list
>> Post a message: fvc-wat-disc at listserv.thinkers.org
>> Unsubscribe: http://listserv.thinkers.org/mailman/listinfo/fvc-wat-disc_l
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>>
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Jennifer Ross <2jennross at gmail.com>
> To: FVC Waterloo Region Discussion <fvc-wat-disc at listserv.thinkers.org>
> Cc: "fvc-wat-announce at listserv.thinkers.org" <
> fvc-wat-announce at listserv.thinkers.org>
> Date: Sun, 25 Dec 2016 09:26:38 -0500
> Subject: Re: [fvc-wat-disc] A Christmas Poem for PR
> That was really, really good!  Thanks for posting it, Donald, in spite of
> my determination to not follow U.S. politics--an impossibility now, I'm
> afraid.
>
> Merry Christmas to all!  Unless you'd prefer a Happy Holiday :)
>
> Jenn
>
> On Sun, Dec 25, 2016 at 8:53 AM, Donald Fraser <donaldafraser at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> On the topic Christmas political poems ... here is a sobering one
>> regarding the elephant-in-the-room election result south of the border ...
>> in the end it's a plug for PR
>>
>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>> +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>
>> Trump out-grinches the Grinch
>> =======================
>>
>> HOW THE TRUMP STOLE AMERICA (apologies to Dr Seuss)
>>
>> By John Pavlovitz
>>
>> In a land where the states are united, they claim,
>> in a sky-scraping tower adorned with his name,
>> lived a terrible, horrible, devious chump,
>> the bright orange miscreant known as the Trump.
>>
>> This Trump he was mean, such a mean little man,
>> with the tiniest heart and two tinier hands,
>> and a thin set of lips etched in permanent curl,
>> and a sneer and a scowl and contempt for the world.
>>
>> He looked down from his perch and he grinned ear to ear,
>> and he thought, “I could steal the election this year!
>> It’d be rather simple, it’s so easily won,
>> I’ll just make them believe that their best days are done!
>> Yes, I’ll make them believe that it’s all gone to Hell,
>> and I’ll be Jerk Messiah and their souls they will sell.
>>
>> And I’ll use lots of words disconnected from truth,
>> but I’ll say them with style so they won’t ask for proof.
>> I’ll toss out random platitudes, phrases, and such,
>> They’re so raised on fake news that it won’t matter much!
>> They won’t question the how to, the what, why, or when,
>> I will make their America great once again!”
>>
>> The Trump told them to fear, they should fear he would say,
>> “They’ve all come for your jobs, they’ll all take them away.
>> You should fear every Muslim and Mexican too,
>> every brown, black, and tan one, everyone who votes blue.”
>>
>> And he fooled all the Christians, he fooled them indeed,
>> He just trotted out Jesus, that’s all Jesus folk need.
>> And celebrity preachers they all crowned him as king,
>> Tripping over themselves just to kiss the Trump’s ring.
>>
>> And he spoke only lies just as if they were true,
>> Until they believed all of those lies were true too.
>> He repeated and Tweeted and he blustered and spit,
>> And he mislead and fibbed—and he just made up sh*t.
>>
>> And the media laughed but they printed each line,
>> thinking “He’ll never will win, in the end we’ll be fine.”
>> So they chased every headline, bold typed every claim,
>> ‘Till the fake news and real news they looked just the same.
>>
>> And the scared folk who listened, they devoured each word,
>> Yes, they ate it all up every word that they heard,
>> petrified that their freedom was under attack,
>> trusting Trump he would take their America back.
>> From the gays and from ISIS, he’d take it all back,
>> Take it back from the Democrats, fat cats, and blacks.
>> And so hook, line, and sinker they all took the bait,
>> all his lies about making America great.
>>
>> Now the Pant-suited One she was smart and prepared,
>> she was brilliant and steady but none of them cared,
>> no they cared not to see all the work that she’d done,
>> or the fact they the Trump had not yet done thing one.
>> They could only shout “Emails!”, yes “Emails!” they’d shout,
>> because Fox News had told them—and Fox News had clout.
>> And the Pant-suited One she was slandered no end,
>> and a lie became truth she could never defend.
>> And the Trump watched it all go according to plan—
>> a strong woman eclipsed by an insecure man.
>>
>> And November the 8th arrived, finally it came,
>> like a slow-moving storm but it came just the same.
>> And Tuesday became Wednesday as those days will do,
>> And the night turned to morning and the nightmare came true,
>> With millions of non-voters still in their beds,
>> Yes, the Trump he had done it, just like he had said.
>>
>> And the Trumpers they trumped, how they trumped when he won,
>> All the racists and bigots; deplorable ones,
>> they crawled out from the woodwork, came out to raise Hell,
>> they came out to be hateful and hurtful as well.
>> With slurs and with road signs, with spray paint and Tweets,
>> with death threats to neighbors and taunts on the street.
>> And the grossest of grossness they hurled on their peers,
>> while the Trump he said zilch—for the first time in years.
>>
>> But he Tweeted at Hamilton, he Tweeted the Times,
>> And he trolled Alec Baldwin a few hundred times,
>> and he pouted a pout like a petulant kid,
>> thinking this is what Presidents actually did,
>> thinking he could still be a perpetual jerk,
>> terrified to learn he had to actually work,
>> work for every American, not just for a few,
>> not just for the white ones—there was much more to do.
>> He now worked for the Muslims and Mexicans too,
>> for the brown, black, and tan ones, and the ones who vote blue.
>> They were all now his bosses, now they all had a say,
>> and those nasty pant-suited ones were here to stay.
>> And the Trump he soon realized that he didn’t win,
>> He had gotten the thing—and the thing now had him.
>>
>> And it turned out the Trump was a little too late,
>> for America was already more than quite great,
>> not because of the sameness, the opposite’s true,
>> It’s greatness far more than just red, white, and blue,
>> It’s straight, gay, and female—it’s Gentile and Jew,
>> It’s Transgender and Christian and Atheist too.
>> It’s Asians, Caucasians of every kind,
>> The disabled and abled, the deaf and the blind,
>> It’s immigrants, Muslims, and brave refugees,
>> It’s Liberals with bleeding hearts fixed to their sleeves.
>> And we are all staying, we’re staying right here,
>> and we’ll be the great bane of the Trump for four years.
>> And we’ll be twice as loud as the loudness of hate,
>> be the greatness that makes our America great.
>> And the Trump’s loudest boasts they won’t ever obscure,
>> over two million more of us—voted for her.
>>
>>
>> On 24 December 2016 at 17:46, Sharon Sommerville <
>> sharonsommerville at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hello & Season's Greetings,
>>>
>>> On behalf of the Board of FairVoteCanada - Waterloo Region, I would like
>>> to extend our very best wishes to you and yours for a joyful & safe holiday
>>> season.
>>>
>>> Here is a little holiday cheer which we hope you will enjoy. This
>>> wonderful poem came from Ann Remnant in Alberta.
>>>
>>> Oh Liberal MP, oh Liberal dear
>>>
>>> Pull up a chair and lend me your ear.
>>>
>>> My tale is short, I won't keep you long
>>>
>>> Just a wee ask to fix a big wrong.
>>>
>>>
>>> Twas not long ago Trudeau made clear
>>>
>>> FPTP had had its last year.
>>>
>>> The people cheered and voted in trust
>>>
>>> that Trudeau's Liberals would fix the unjust.
>>>
>>>
>>> The committee studied, all summer through
>>>
>>> With a survey, emails, and many a backyard do.
>>>
>>> A PR system was the favoured choice
>>>
>>> of committee experts and the peoples' voice.
>>>
>>>
>>> So, quite shocking it was to hear Trudeau say
>>>
>>> Hey! 'Canadians actually think I'm okay'
>>>
>>> Then, Monsef to a room full of PR support!
>>>
>>> “There's no consensus” I regret to report.
>>>
>>>
>>> It's truly awesome to be a Liberal MP
>>>
>>> devoting yourself to the entire country.
>>>
>>> Pardon, I do not intend to insult or provoke
>>>
>>> But, be wary, your power depends on our vote.
>>>
>>>
>>> The time is short and the task is great
>>>
>>> To keep the promise our PM did state.
>>>
>>> Please give thought, 'mid the season's jollity
>>> To how you will fix our democracy.
>>>
>>>
>>> All the best!
>>>
>>> Sharon
>>> for FVC-WR
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> This is the fvc-wat-disc mailing list
>>> Post a message: fvc-wat-disc at listserv.thinkers.org
>>> Unsubscribe: http://listserv.thinkers.org/m
>>> ailman/listinfo/fvc-wat-disc_listserv.thinkers.org
>>>
>>>
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