[fvc-wat-disc] One FPTP argument goes down in flames

Sun Nov 13 10:06:06 EST 2016

Fair Vote Canada sent out a thing with a poster.  Also on Facebook.  WE
CRASHED THE SERVER!!  It was such a popular share.

Here is the poster, if you want to share it although I have no idea if the
server will be able to count the shares.  We are well over 400,000, maybe
even half a million now :)

On Sun, Nov 13, 2016 at 9:40 AM, haberlin at gmail.com <haberlin at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Hi Kevin,
>
>
>
> I posted the link to Reddit.  It has elicited quite a bit of commentary.
> Thanks for giving us all the heads up.
>
>
>
> Seanh
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> *From:* fvc-wat-disc [mailto:fvc-wat-disc-bounces at listserv.thinkers.org] *On
> Behalf Of *Dave Arthur
> *Sent:* November 13, 2016 9:19 AM
> *To:* FVC Waterloo Region Discussion <fvc-wat-disc at listserv.thinkers.org>
>
> *Subject:* Re: [fvc-wat-disc] One FPTP argument goes down in flames
>
>
>
> Yes, Andrew’s article makes a strong point.
>
> They are saying that, when the vote tallies are complete Hillary may have
> received 2 million more votes than the Donald.
>
> When people say the American voters have spoken, they are wrong.
>
> It’s the electoral system that has spoken and it does not reflect true
> public support.
>
> Sound familiar?
>
> Dave
>
>
>
> *From:* Sharon Sommerville
>
> *Sent:* Saturday, November 12, 2016 3:28 PM
>
> *To:* FVC Waterloo Region Discussion
>
> *Subject:* Re: [fvc-wat-disc] One FPTP argument goes down in flames
>
>
>
> Thanks for sharing Coyne's article Kevin. His analysis of the electoral
> context of Trump's win offers an coherent & entertaining explanation of
> Tuesday's outcome and illustrates that the majority of Americans have not
> taken leave of their senses. Trump's win may, as did Harper's majority here
> put some fire under the electoral reform movement in the US.
>
>
>
> Cheers,
>
> Sharon
>
>
>
> On Sat, Nov 12, 2016 at 9:08 AM, Kevin Smith <kevedsmith at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> First Past the Post keeps yahoos out of power? WRONG!
>
> http://www.nationalpost.com/m/wp/full-comment/blog.html?b=
> news.nationalpost.com/full-comment/andrew-coyne-dont-
> blame-clinton-for-losing-she-got-the-most-votes
>
>
>
> On Nov 9, 2016 1:49 AM, "Bob Jonkman" <bjonkman at sobac.com> wrote:
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> Thanks to everyone who responded to the poll! It seems that a sense of
> urgency won the day; the first available date of Thursday, 10 November
> 2016 was chosen to have our Strategy Meeting.
>
> *What*: Fair Vote Waterloo Strategy Meeting, Fall 2016
> *When*: Thursday, 10 November 2016 from 7:00pm to 9:00pm
> *Where*: Sharon Sommerville's dining room
> *Location*: 85 Westmount Road South, Waterloo, Ontario
> *Map*: http://osm.org/go/ZXna8VEB--?m=
>
> Thanks to Sharon Sommerville for hosting! Street parking is available
> on Douglas Street.
>
> See you on Thursday!
>
> Bob Jonkman,
> Co-Chair, Fair Vote Waterloo
>
>
> Poll: http://www.fairvotewrc.ca/choose-a-date-for-a-strategy-meeting/
>
> Event:
> http://www.fairvotewrc.ca/event/fair-vote-waterloo-strategy-meeting/
>
>
> On 2016-11-03 06:20 PM, Bob Jonkman wrote:
> > Hello Fair Voters:  There have been some alarming comments from
> > both Prime Minister Justin Trudeau and Minister of Democratic
> > Institutions Maryam Monsef that Canadians no longer need Electoral
> > Reform because the Liberals have formed the government.
> >
> > There’s an urgent need to make a coordinated effort to address the
> > Liberals’ backsliding on their election promise of electoral
> > reform. We talked about this at the previous Discussion Night, and
> > had scheduled a Strategy Meeting for Wednesday, 23 November 2016.
> > Unfortunately, a significant number of people can’t make it for
> > that date, and because of the urgency of this issue an earlier date
> > was requested.
> >
> > Please use this poll to choose a date:
> >
> > http://www.fairvotewrc.ca/choose-a-date-for-a-strategy-meeting/
> >
> > If you can’t complete the poll you can e-mail me at
> > bjonkman at sobac.com I’ll pick the date on Tuesday, 8 November 2016
> > based on the plurality of the poll results.
> >
> > At the meeting we will discuss ways to combat the Liberals’
> > misperception of Canadians’ overwhelming support for Electoral
> > Reform:
> >
> > * Do we have a letter writing campaign to target Liberal MPs? * The
> > ERRE committee? * Media? * Do we make phone calls? * Have
> > individual meetings with MPs? * Have protest rallies?
> >
> > Thank you! –Bob Jonkman, Co-Chair, Fair Vote Waterloo
> >
> > - From the Discussion Mailing List:
> >
> >> It is critical that we create a powerful response that sends a
> >> clear message about how upset & angry we are at this betrayal.
> >> And how it will impact the next election!
>
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