[fvc-wat-disc] Monsef on CBC The House

[John Cooper]

The comment I make to Luisa D’Amato (sic): why would anyone trust the Liberal party or any of its elected members?

 

In the 1891 federal election they proposed "unrestricted reciprocity" with USA.

Macdonald won that election.

The Liberals won in 1896 after Laurier's support of Conservative MacDonald’s National Policy.

 

In January 1911, Laurier and President William Howard Taft of the United States announced that they signed a reciprocity agreement, which they decided to pass by concurrent legislation rather than a formal treaty…

In September 1911, the Liberals lost the election after proposing a treaty with the US to lower tariffs. 

 

When the Mulroney Conservatives proposed Free Trade with the US in 1988, the Liberals campaigned to cancel it.    {this is a summary, not a complete explanation}

After they were elected in 1993, they did not.

 

‘He who ignores history is doomed to repeat it.’ Canadians are doomed by continuing to believe the Liberal Party.

 

John Cooper

NOT a Liberal!

 

From: fvc-wat-disc [mailto:fvc-wat-disc-bounces at listserv.thinkers.org] On Behalf Of Dave Arthur
Sent: November-27-16 6:28 PM
To: FVC Waterloo Region Discussion
Subject: Re: [fvc-wat-disc] Monsef on CBC The House

 

Luisa is dismayed by Monsef’s comments as are we and plans to write about it this week.

She is interested in comments from us and I plan to meet with her.

I would like to receive any comments you can send my way.

The problems in concise form would be best.

Do we know for sure what the picture has been at all the meetings across the country?

And the business of the straw votes?

Dave

 

From: Sharon Sommerville 

Sent: Sunday, November 27, 2016 12:08 PM

To: FVC Waterloo Region Discussion 

Subject: Re: [fvc-wat-disc] Monsef on CBC The House

 

Thanks for sharing Monsef's interview Eleanor. 

 

Reading the Waterloo Region town hall report, one could see why Monsef would say that there was no consensus for change which was part of her message in this interview.  If the WR report was indicative of other MP town hall reports then we have a self fulfilling process.

 

She stated that she heard from passionate folks supporting PR & FPTP.  I have attended 4 consultation meetings: three town halls and one ERRE committee open mic meeting.  There was no strong support for FPTP at any of those meetings.  All meetings were in SW Ont. or Toronto, so that may bias the views.

 

She stated that FVC's statement that the straw vote at the beginning of each of her town halls didn't included a vote on PR.  We have our town hall on video & I would like to review that segment of the meeting. Don't know if it is on our website yet, if not I will be in touch with Laurel to see if we can take a look at the section of the meeting. I remember the straw poll but don't recall if there was a vote on PR or if it was simply for a more general electoral system change. Does anyone else have a clear memory of the vote?

 

One thing that she didn't confirm was the strong, clear and definitive policy that all Liberal MPs campaigned on.  That seems to be forgotten.

 

We should write to The House to remind the Liberals of their campaign promise.

 

Thanks again Eleanor, very interesting and a great help!

 

Cheers,

Sharon

 

On Sun, Nov 27, 2016 at 8:49 AM, Eleanor Grant <eleanor7000 at gmail.com> wrote:

10-minute interview with host Chris Hall, Sat Nov 26:

http://www.cbc.ca/radio/thehouse/catherine-mckenna-on-her-green-blueprint-and-dealing-with-trump-1.3868982?autoplay=true

Segment starts at apx 22:22

What do you think?

Eleanor 


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