[fvc-wat-disc] Fw: Your facts on ERRE don't fit with FVC analysis

[Jennifer Ross]

Fair Vote Canada has asked the four candidates three questions on PR.  Two
have answered the actual questions.  Ashton has posted something to
Facebook, and Angus (who might be one of the two answering the questions)
has given us an entire video just to us, which I'll try to find in a bit.
It will be published tomorrow, just in time for people to sign up with
their support of the NDP or a specific candidate.

Jenn, ex-officio member of the executive (no longer Treasurer)

On Mon, Aug 14, 2017 at 4:04 PM, Dave Arthur <arthurd23 at bell.net> wrote:

> I’ve looked at the websites of the four NDP leadership candidates and none
> of them have any mention of electoral reform or PR.
> What does this mean?
> Does anyone have anything more encouraging about any of the four on ER?
> Dave A
>
> *From:* arthurd23 arthurd23
> *Sent:* Tuesday, August 8, 2017 6:21 PM
> *To:* David Dolson ; FVC Waterloo Region Discussion
> *Subject:* Re: [fvc-wat-disc] Fw: Your facts on ERRE don't fit with FVC
> analysis
>
>
> Unfortunately, he's correct that the majority of Canadians are uninformed
> or totally complacent or both.
>
> Without a government that is committed to true democracy as 90% of
> developed democracies have, and takes on a major education campaign, we in
> Canada will never see PR. We are not New Zealand where they did care. BC
> might but they are somewhat more progressive.
>
> Dave
>
> ---------- Original Message ----------
> From: David Dolson <ddolson at golden.net>
> Date: August 8, 2017 at 1:33 PM
>
> I got this response.‎ It seems sympathetic, so he might be receptive to
> friendly pointers.
> -Dave
> *From: *geoffstevens geoffstevens <geoffstevens at sympatico.ca>
> *Sent: *Tuesday, August 8, 2017 11:10 AM
> *To: *David Dolson
> *Reply To: *geoffstevens geoffstevens
> *Subject: *Re: Your facts on ERRE don't fit with FVC analysis
>
>
>
> Hi Dave:
>
> I'm looking at the results of that government online survey in late 2015,
> in which 67% said they were somewhat or very satisfied with the existing
> system.
>
> The Abacus Data poll for the Broadbent Institute reported 40% say
> electoral reform is not important to them and 12% say they couldn't care
> less. An Insights West poll found 62% are very or somewhat satisfied with
> FPTP.
>
> There's no clarion call for action, is there?
>
> As the unfortunate Maryam Monsef said: "The only consensus that the report
> found was that there is no consensus on electoral reform."
>
> My point is simply this: if the government wants electoral reform, it will
> not get it by taking the pulse of the country or by providing a stage for
> interest groups. It has to get out and sell the idea. If half or more than
> half of the people aren't interested in change, no wise gvernment is going
> to embrace it.
>
> At this point, the Conservatives are opposed to change and the Liberals
> don't care about it.
>
> I'm afraid it's not going to happen.
>
> Thanks for writing.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Geoff
>
>
>
> ---------- Original Message ----------
> From: David Dolson <ddolson at golden.net>
> Date: August 8, 2017 at 8:32 AM
>
> Geoff‎rey,
>
> I just read you opinion article at ‎https://www.therecord.com/
> opinion-story/7490755-time-for-trudeau-to-get-back-to-work/
>
> Although I generally agree with the sentiment of the article, you state,
> " largest number said they thought they preferred the existing
> first-past-the-post system, perhaps with tweaks"
>
> This massively disagrees with the analysis here:
> http://www.fairvote.ca/strong-mandate/
>
> How can you explain this? It seems like you didn't read the same report
> that Fair Vote Canada did.
>
> I, and it would seem a majority of Canadians, would prefer Justin had got
> to work on electoral reform as well.
>
>
> -Dave
>
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