[fvc-wat-disc] Leadnow

[John Cooper]

Leadnow is Liberal ‘front’ organization, not a ‘democratic’ institution organization

 

O'Leary will not be the Conservative leader. He's too radical and ‘shoots his mouth off ’.

 

From: fvc-wat-disc [mailto:fvc-wat-disc-bounces at listserv.thinkers.org] On Behalf Of Anita Nickerson
Sent: February-03-17 6:51 PM
To: FVC Waterloo Region Discussion
Subject: Re: [fvc-wat-disc] Letters to the Editor Needed

 

Because their main issue is not PR. They're a long term organization who have many issues.

Before the election I tried very hard to get them to incorporate a candidate's position on PR into their decision whether to endorse or not. 

They chose to endorse the only Liberal candidate in Canada who outright told us he's support PR never. And others who didn't support PR. 

I understand the only goal then was to get rid of Harper. 

But I cannot see Leadnow organizing 3 years ahead of an election to have people sign a pledge saying they'll only vote NDP or Green. Even those on the Vote Better segment of their list. 

What if it looks like O'Leary's going to come up the middle? You think we won't be "voting together" even reluctantly again in some way? You think they want to burn their bridges now with the governing MPs (and alienate their Liberal supporters) by basically saying they're an NDP/Green front based on one issue, when there are SO many other issues they need to be able to influence the Liberal government on over the next three years.

 

I don't see any org running this kind of campaign 3 years ahead of an election. I think it would have to be grassroots. 

 

But ask your contacts in Leadnow - you're not the only one with that idea. 

 

Anita

 

On Fri, Feb 3, 2017 at 5:49 PM, Jon Bathmaker <jon.bathmaker at gmail.com> wrote:

Why do you think that Leadnow will not support having people sign the I won't vote etc. pledge? 

Jon

On 2/3/2017 5:31 PM, Anita Nickerson wrote:

What would be most effective is two things: 

 

a) having as many people sign an "I will not vote for you again because you broke your electoral reform promise" pledge as signed the vote together pledge

b) media at his office embarrassing him with that as I outlined below, so more and more people find out about it


These kinds of partisan activities probably cannot be done by FVC is the problem, Leadnow is not going to do it, and without the mailing lists to do it, it is difficult. But not impossible. 

 

Anita

 

On Fri, Feb 3, 2017 at 4:54 PM, Jon Bathmaker <jon.bathmaker at gmail.com> wrote:

> I know this is not positive but the Liberals need to own this.     
The only world that is positive all the time is the one inhabited by Mary Poppins.   Since I don't live in that world I'm fine with it.  

I remember Raj coming to a little gathering in a pub for the Leadnow types who had helped him get elected.  He was late but he had clearly made a largish effort to get there and was very grateful for the Leadnow crew's efforts on his behalf.   That lasted about a week.  

I think we should stop playing nice with these turds.  I think we should just visit Bardish and Bryan and Marwan and Raj and deal the cards straight off the top of the deck.  OK Mr/Ms. MP, you don't want to play with us anymore after we got you elected to implement PR?  No problem, we're not going to get mad, we're going get even by organizing like crazy and handing you your ass in 19 (Kiss the pension goodbye!)  Now go and tell *that* to Prime Minister Pretty Boy.  

Regards,
Jon 

 

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