[fvc-wat-disc] New Mandate Letter for the Hon. Karina Gould

[John Cooper]

I’ve never voted ‘strategically’, always according to my principles, values and beliefs - for the NDP – always since 1971 first time I was eligible to vote.

Never been ‘sucked in’ by Liberal ‘promises’ or ‘have to get rid of the Conservatives’ or against a party.

 

  

The Liberals and Justin Trudeau are ‘liars’.

 

In previous messages, I have warned about this decision, and I don’t relish saying “I told you so”.

 

I do admire and appreciate the diligence of the Fair Vote organizers for attempting to convince the Liberals.

It’s sad and unfortunate.

 

 

As for ‘democracy’ in New Zealand: 

the Greens have 14 MPs (10.70% of votes ) - none of whom ‘won’ their seat by ‘electoral’ vote – by party lists only

New Zealand First Party 11 MPs (8.66 % of votes) by party lists only

http://www.electionresults.govt.nz/electionresults_2014/partystatus.html

 

 

From: fvc-wat-disc [mailto:fvc-wat-disc-bounces at listserv.thinkers.org] On Behalf Of arthurd23 arthurd23
Sent: February-01-17 4:57 PM
To: FVC Waterloo Region Discussion; Paul Nijjar
Subject: Re: [fvc-wat-disc] New Mandate Letter for the Hon. Karina Gould

Not me. That's it.

No more strategic voting for me.

I'll vote sincerely. Consequences be damned.

New Zealand is a nice place and is a democracy.

Dave A

---------- Original Message ----------
From: Paul Nijjar <paul_nijjar at yahoo.ca>
Date: February 1, 2017 at 2:54 PM

Nonsense. Most of you will be voting for JT next election. The next
Conservative leader is likely to be either Kelly Leitch or Kevin
O'Leary, and given the choice between one of those two or the Liberals
(or the NDP which -- as always -- threatens to split the vote) you
will fall in line. 

The Liberals are not fools. They understand that ticking off the
electoral reform nerds is a dangerous gambit, because often we are the
ones staffing their campaigns. But if the Conservative campaign plays
out the way it appears to be, the Liberals know they are on safe
ground.

By all means, let's make our threats. I will be calling Raj Saini to
make mine as well. But let's also be aware that those threats are
hollow.

- Paul 

On Wed, Feb 01, 2017 at 02:40:56PM -0500, Beverly Summerfield wrote:
> Agreed
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> > On Feb 1, 2017, at 2:32 PM, arthurd23 arthurd23 <arthurd23 at bell.net> wrote:
> > 
> > More than a stern rebuke is needed.
> > 
> > I suggest that Fairvote, Leadnow and others committed to ER let JT, the LPC, and as many Liberal MPs as possible know that they will never get another vote or dollar or campaign support. Too extreme? They won't be moved by any less.
> > 
> > Dave A
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