[fvc-wat-disc] New Mandate Letter for the Hon. Karina Gould

Sharon Sommerville sharonsommerville at gmail.com
Wed Feb 1 23:22:13 EST 2017


Thank you Cathy.  Will wait to hear from others before confirming Monday.



On Wed, Feb 1, 2017 at 10:17 PM, Cathy Scott <cathy.scottfree at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Yes, I can be at a meeting any evening next week
>
> Cathy
>
>
>
> *From:* fvc-wat-disc [mailto:fvc-wat-disc-bounces at listserv.thinkers.org] *On
> Behalf Of *Sharon Sommerville
> *Sent:* Wednesday, February 1, 2017 10:03 PM
>
> *To:* FVC Waterloo Region Discussion
> *Subject:* Re: [fvc-wat-disc] New Mandate Letter for the Hon. Karina Gould
>
>
>
> Hi Cathy,
>
>
>
> Yes, a new message for Raj and all the other Liberal MPs in WR. Could be
> fun. Glad you will have the opportunity to speak with Raj this month.  Will
> be emailing everyone who volunteered to see their MP to keep their
> appointments and use the meeting to be very clear about what they think
> about being duped.
>
> Can you attend a meeting next week?
>
>
>
> With thanks,
>
> S.
>
>
>
> On Wed, Feb 1, 2017 at 9:54 PM, Cathy Scott <cathy.scottfree at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> HI, Sharon
>
> Thanks for the rallying cry and the opportunity to meet to plan our next
> moves.
>
> I emailed Trudeau to let him know how I feel about how he has misconstrued
> the message Canadians have given, to give him an excuse to abandon
> electoral reform.
>
> Mo and I are going to have to rethink what we will say to Raj at our
> meeting on Feb. 24.
>
> CAthy
>
>
>
> *From:* fvc-wat-disc [mailto:fvc-wat-disc-bounces at listserv.thinkers.org] *On
> Behalf Of *Sharon Sommerville
> *Sent:* Wednesday, February 1, 2017 9:34 PM
>
>
> *To:* FVC Waterloo Region Discussion
> *Subject:* Re: [fvc-wat-disc] New Mandate Letter for the Hon. Karina Gould
>
>
>
> Hello All,
>
>
>
> Today's news is more than a disappointment of course but the day
> Monsef introduced "looking for a broad consensus from Cdns. to make
> electoral change" to the process was the day the writing was on the wall.
> Weasel words par excellence from which much obfuscation, side stepping and
> plain old lying has arisen. This has always been about leadership and
> Trudeau chose (pressure from caucus?, the LPC leadership? who knows what)
> to serve his party rather than Cdns.& our democracy. For this he deserves
> (fill in the blank :) )__________.
>
>
>
> We have played very nicely in the sandbox with the Liberals for many years
> and we are now liberated from that restriction if we choose.
>
>
>
> I suggest that we take a few days to calm ourselves & meet early next week
> to re-group and re-tool. My house, 7 pm next Monday? Tuesday or Wednesday
> are also possibilities.
>
>
>
> This is by no means over.  Actually, we are just getting going.... :)!
>
>
>
> Cheers,
>
> S.
>
>
>
> On Wed, Feb 1, 2017 at 9:00 PM, John Cooper <johnco at golden.net> wrote:
>
> It won't make any difference. You are wasting your time,
> once again.
>
> Just don't bother to give them money and vote for them or
> renew your membership.
> It's none of their business to know anyway.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: fvc-wat-disc
> [mailto:fvc-wat-disc-bounces at listserv.thinkers.org] On
> Behalf Of Paul Nijjar
> Sent: February-01-17 6:03 PM
> To: FVC Waterloo Region Discussion
> Subject: Re: [fvc-wat-disc] New Mandate Letter for the Hon.
> Karina Gould
>
>
> Jennifer and Sharon and other people who have worked on
> Liberal campaigns in the past have more leverage than those
> of us who just voted strategically for the Liberals (or
> those who did not vote for them at all). In addition to
> being delightful people they have good connections within
> the party. There are other disaffected Liberal campaign
> organizers as well.
>
> Is there any sense in FVC (or LeadNow, or somebody) putting
> together a pledge/petition signed by people who donated
> money or worked for Liberal campaigns in the past?  This
> pledge would state that these campaign workers/funders are
> withdrawing their support for the federal Liberals in the
> next election. My previous cynicism still stands, but maybe
> promising not to organize on behalf of Liberal candidates
> means more than promising not to vote for them.
>
> I called Raj Saini's office (and got through to a human,
> which was a
> miracle) and expressed my discontent. I also talked to
> somebody who worked on Saini's campaign and asked him to
> express his. Saini and the other local Libs know that they
> are in a hotbed of electoral reform, and they are probably
> expecting the backlash. But we can at least flood their
> phones for a couple of days with our threats.
>
> - Paul
>
> On Wed, Feb 01, 2017 at 05:38:32PM -0500, Anita Nickerson
> wrote:
> > If we don't DO something dramatic like tell people to give
> money to
> > the NDP and Greens now - something that seriously puts
> something on
> > the line in way of consequences for the Liberals now - not
> "oh maybe
> > people will remember 3 years from now" - then we might as
> well not bother.
> >
> > They don't care about our press releases saying we're
> disappointed and
> > angry. They don't care about evidence. They don't care
> about promises.
> >
> > What do they care about?
> >
> > Money, power.
> >
> > We may not have enough people to make an impact but it
> says one thing
> > to
> > them: We're not idiots. We tried communicating with you
> based on these
> > other ways. Now we will speak your language.
> >
> > Anita
> >
>
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