[fvc-wat-disc] New Mandate Letter for the Hon. Karina Gould

Sharon Sommerville sharonsommerville at gmail.com
Wed Feb 1 22:03:15 EST 2017


Hi Cathy,

Yes, a new message for Raj and all the other Liberal MPs in WR. Could be
fun. Glad you will have the opportunity to speak with Raj this month.  Will
be emailing everyone who volunteered to see their MP to keep their
appointments and use the meeting to be very clear about what they think
about being duped.
Can you attend a meeting next week?

With thanks,
S.

On Wed, Feb 1, 2017 at 9:54 PM, Cathy Scott <cathy.scottfree at gmail.com>
wrote:

> HI, Sharon
>
> Thanks for the rallying cry and the opportunity to meet to plan our next
> moves.
>
> I emailed Trudeau to let him know how I feel about how he has misconstrued
> the message Canadians have given, to give him an excuse to abandon
> electoral reform.
>
> Mo and I are going to have to rethink what we will say to Raj at our
> meeting on Feb. 24.
>
> CAthy
>
>
>
> *From:* fvc-wat-disc [mailto:fvc-wat-disc-bounces at listserv.thinkers.org] *On
> Behalf Of *Sharon Sommerville
> *Sent:* Wednesday, February 1, 2017 9:34 PM
>
> *To:* FVC Waterloo Region Discussion
> *Subject:* Re: [fvc-wat-disc] New Mandate Letter for the Hon. Karina Gould
>
>
>
> Hello All,
>
>
>
> Today's news is more than a disappointment of course but the day
> Monsef introduced "looking for a broad consensus from Cdns. to make
> electoral change" to the process was the day the writing was on the wall.
> Weasel words par excellence from which much obfuscation, side stepping and
> plain old lying has arisen. This has always been about leadership and
> Trudeau chose (pressure from caucus?, the LPC leadership? who knows what)
> to serve his party rather than Cdns.& our democracy. For this he deserves
> (fill in the blank :) )__________.
>
>
>
> We have played very nicely in the sandbox with the Liberals for many years
> and we are now liberated from that restriction if we choose.
>
>
>
> I suggest that we take a few days to calm ourselves & meet early next week
> to re-group and re-tool. My house, 7 pm next Monday? Tuesday or Wednesday
> are also possibilities.
>
>
>
> This is by no means over.  Actually, we are just getting going.... :)!
>
>
>
> Cheers,
>
> S.
>
>
>
> On Wed, Feb 1, 2017 at 9:00 PM, John Cooper <johnco at golden.net> wrote:
>
> It won't make any difference. You are wasting your time,
> once again.
>
> Just don't bother to give them money and vote for them or
> renew your membership.
> It's none of their business to know anyway.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: fvc-wat-disc
> [mailto:fvc-wat-disc-bounces at listserv.thinkers.org] On
> Behalf Of Paul Nijjar
> Sent: February-01-17 6:03 PM
> To: FVC Waterloo Region Discussion
> Subject: Re: [fvc-wat-disc] New Mandate Letter for the Hon.
> Karina Gould
>
>
> Jennifer and Sharon and other people who have worked on
> Liberal campaigns in the past have more leverage than those
> of us who just voted strategically for the Liberals (or
> those who did not vote for them at all). In addition to
> being delightful people they have good connections within
> the party. There are other disaffected Liberal campaign
> organizers as well.
>
> Is there any sense in FVC (or LeadNow, or somebody) putting
> together a pledge/petition signed by people who donated
> money or worked for Liberal campaigns in the past?  This
> pledge would state that these campaign workers/funders are
> withdrawing their support for the federal Liberals in the
> next election. My previous cynicism still stands, but maybe
> promising not to organize on behalf of Liberal candidates
> means more than promising not to vote for them.
>
> I called Raj Saini's office (and got through to a human,
> which was a
> miracle) and expressed my discontent. I also talked to
> somebody who worked on Saini's campaign and asked him to
> express his. Saini and the other local Libs know that they
> are in a hotbed of electoral reform, and they are probably
> expecting the backlash. But we can at least flood their
> phones for a couple of days with our threats.
>
> - Paul
>
> On Wed, Feb 01, 2017 at 05:38:32PM -0500, Anita Nickerson
> wrote:
> > If we don't DO something dramatic like tell people to give
> money to
> > the NDP and Greens now - something that seriously puts
> something on
> > the line in way of consequences for the Liberals now - not
> "oh maybe
> > people will remember 3 years from now" - then we might as
> well not bother.
> >
> > They don't care about our press releases saying we're
> disappointed and
> > angry. They don't care about evidence. They don't care
> about promises.
> >
> > What do they care about?
> >
> > Money, power.
> >
> > We may not have enough people to make an impact but it
> says one thing
> > to
> > them: We're not idiots. We tried communicating with you
> based on these
> > other ways. Now we will speak your language.
> >
> > Anita
> >
>
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