[fvc-wat-disc] New Mandate Letter for the Hon. Karina Gould

[Cathy Scott]

HI, Sharon

Thanks for the rallying cry and the opportunity to meet to plan our next moves.

I emailed Trudeau to let him know how I feel about how he has misconstrued the message Canadians have given, to give him an excuse to abandon electoral reform.

Mo and I are going to have to rethink what we will say to Raj at our meeting on Feb. 24.

CAthy

 

From: fvc-wat-disc [mailto:fvc-wat-disc-bounces at listserv.thinkers.org] On Behalf Of Sharon Sommerville
Sent: Wednesday, February 1, 2017 9:34 PM
To: FVC Waterloo Region Discussion
Subject: Re: [fvc-wat-disc] New Mandate Letter for the Hon. Karina Gould

 

Hello All,

 

Today's news is more than a disappointment of course but the day Monsef introduced "looking for a broad consensus from Cdns. to make electoral change" to the process was the day the writing was on the wall.  Weasel words par excellence from which much obfuscation, side stepping and plain old lying has arisen. This has always been about leadership and Trudeau chose (pressure from caucus?, the LPC leadership? who knows what) to serve his party rather than Cdns.& our democracy. For this he deserves (fill in the blank :) )__________.

 

We have played very nicely in the sandbox with the Liberals for many years and we are now liberated from that restriction if we choose.

 

I suggest that we take a few days to calm ourselves & meet early next week to re-group and re-tool. My house, 7 pm next Monday? Tuesday or Wednesday are also possibilities.

 

This is by no means over.  Actually, we are just getting going.... :)!

 

Cheers,

S.

 

On Wed, Feb 1, 2017 at 9:00 PM, John Cooper <johnco at golden.net> wrote:

It won't make any difference. You are wasting your time,
once again.

Just don't bother to give them money and vote for them or
renew your membership.
It's none of their business to know anyway.

-----Original Message-----
From: fvc-wat-disc
[mailto:fvc-wat-disc-bounces at listserv.thinkers.org] On
Behalf Of Paul Nijjar
Sent: February-01-17 6:03 PM
To: FVC Waterloo Region Discussion
Subject: Re: [fvc-wat-disc] New Mandate Letter for the Hon.
Karina Gould


Jennifer and Sharon and other people who have worked on
Liberal campaigns in the past have more leverage than those
of us who just voted strategically for the Liberals (or
those who did not vote for them at all). In addition to
being delightful people they have good connections within
the party. There are other disaffected Liberal campaign
organizers as well.

Is there any sense in FVC (or LeadNow, or somebody) putting
together a pledge/petition signed by people who donated
money or worked for Liberal campaigns in the past?  This
pledge would state that these campaign workers/funders are
withdrawing their support for the federal Liberals in the
next election. My previous cynicism still stands, but maybe
promising not to organize on behalf of Liberal candidates
means more than promising not to vote for them.

I called Raj Saini's office (and got through to a human,
which was a
miracle) and expressed my discontent. I also talked to
somebody who worked on Saini's campaign and asked him to
express his. Saini and the other local Libs know that they
are in a hotbed of electoral reform, and they are probably
expecting the backlash. But we can at least flood their
phones for a couple of days with our threats.

- Paul

On Wed, Feb 01, 2017 at 05:38:32PM -0500, Anita Nickerson
wrote:
> If we don't DO something dramatic like tell people to give
money to
> the NDP and Greens now - something that seriously puts
something on
> the line in way of consequences for the Liberals now - not
"oh maybe
> people will remember 3 years from now" - then we might as
well not bother.
>
> They don't care about our press releases saying we're
disappointed and
> angry. They don't care about evidence. They don't care
about promises.
>
> What do they care about?
>
> Money, power.
>
> We may not have enough people to make an impact but it
says one thing
> to
> them: We're not idiots. We tried communicating with you
based on these
> other ways. Now we will speak your language.
>
> Anita
>



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