[fvc-wat-disc] An Idea

[Jennifer Ross]

Yes, of course!

On Thu, Feb 2, 2017 at 1:02 PM, Donald Fraser <donaldafraser at gmail.com>
wrote:

> confused ... are the 2 Parties Green and NDP?
>
> On 2 February 2017 at 12:53, Jennifer Ross <2jennross at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Have to agree with Bob.  Fair Vote will be pointing out we still have two
>> parties, and in fact we are talking about pushing them into going into an
>> Alliance ON proportional representation.--not a merger or even a
>> cooperative as Anita and I tried once before.  But that's for those parties
>> to decide.  Every individual will have to decide for themselves whether to
>> join, volunteer for, vote for one of the two--and which one.  Fair Vote
>> cannot take sides on that.
>>
>> On Thu, Feb 2, 2017 at 12:02 PM, Bob Jonkman <bjonkman at sobac.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I had hoped we have all learned our lesson about the effectiveness of
>>> strategic voting -- it doesn't work.
>>>
>>> Fair Vote itself is multi-partisan, and cannot endorse one party over
>>> another. Besides, there are too many members with affiliations to other
>>> parties to make strategic voting for one party acceptable. We'd lose more
>>> members than would be left to make strategic votes.
>>>
>>> Leadnow may be more amenable to your suggestion.
>>>
>>> --Bob.
>>>
>>> On February 2, 2017 10:04:45 AM EST, Donald Fraser <
>>> donaldafraser at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I sent this suggestion to Leadnow HQ and I wonder if Jenn could pass it
>>>> on for FVC  discussion.
>>>>
>>>> Also, what do the rest of you think?
>>>>
>>>> =====================
>>>>
>>>> All of us Waterloo Fair Voters are devastated, but I have an idea.
>>>>
>>>> Why not  harness all the energy and enthusiasm of Fair Vote Canada and
>>>> Leadnow to work for and strategically vote for an NDP government in the
>>>> next election (with the unwavering solid promise from Tom Mulcair or
>>>> the next leader NOT to do what Justin just did) as a means to get MMPR
>>>> which is the version preferred by the NDP. It means one more
>>>> strategic-vote-election, but it would be the last.
>>>>
>>>> We would need to appeal to all our members (FVC and Leadnow) while the
>>>> iron is hot BEFORE they go back to their respective parties. We would be
>>>> asking them to BE partisan (NDP) for one term but if we succeeded, then we
>>>> could from then on go back to voting for our parties of choice.
>>>>
>>>> An additional advantage is that we would have the national organization
>>>> of the NDP to help educate the public about MMPR, which they would
>>>> certainly do since it would be part of their platform.
>>>>
>>>> This happened in New Zealand ... the Labour government promised an
>>>> election reform referendum and then sat on it and did nothing (like the
>>>> Liberals). The National Party sensed a weakness and campaigned on a
>>>> referendum themselves (possibly like the NDP) . They won and had to go
>>>> through with the referendum which meant that NZ had a trial of 4 terms with
>>>> MMPR. After that a referendum was held to see if the voters liked it ...
>>>> they did and now NZ has MMPR permanently.
>>>>
>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/.../Electoral_reform_in_New_Zealand
>>>> <https://l.facebook.com/l.php?u=https%3A%2F%2Fen.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FElectoral_reform_in_New_Zealand&h=ATNKcX-jNpeOYKCj1wpEKOwKdaqCKR6xUCefrwhstvcdAWO9FZxNYSxvIf6-gSsnxfDMYuKBIT_FaZcSk_MgjpDr0PnCoDUSYMa6kIOa1CpcHFOoHWemkjxpdKT5xH5jifc>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
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>>
>> --
>> No other Western democratic country concentrates as much political power in
>> the hands of one person as Canada does with her Prime Minister.
>>
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No other Western democratic country concentrates as much political power in
the hands of one person as Canada does with her Prime Minister.
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