[fvc-wat-disc] Letters to the Editor Needed

Jon Bathmaker jon.bathmaker at gmail.com
Fri Feb 3 22:52:07 EST 2017


I think we should choose the one that makes them look the worst. With 
that criterion BETRAYAL seems to be the winner.

Best,
Jon


On 2/3/2017 10:45 PM, Anita Nickerson wrote:
> Which do you like better for the hat?
>
> REAL LIES or REAL BETRAYAL
>
> On Fri, Feb 3, 2017 at 10:30 PM, Sharon Sommerville 
> <sharonsommerville at gmail.com <mailto:sharonsommerville at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>     Hello All,
>
>     We are going to have to do a lot of writing in the coming weeks. 
>     Please remember that you don't have to write the letters, another
>     person can write if you can submit or you can write a letter and
>     have someone else submit it.  We need writers and submitters.
>
>     Thanks to Donald for an excellent response to Ms. Smith's
>     article.  We need one more.  Can someone volunteer to write and or
>     submit a response to Ms. Smith's article?  It would need to be
>     submitted by Sunday evening
>
>     We need a supportive letter for Luisa's article.  Is there someone
>     who can write/submit it.  This one should be easy. Again, it
>     should be in by Sunday pm.
>
>     We need at least two responses to today's editorial. One should be
>     from FVC-WR which I can draft and send round to our bd. members so
>     we need one more.  Any takers?  Again, you can write but not
>     submit or offer to submit but not write.
>
>     A march to Raj's office from KCH would be doable. Someone could
>     book an appointment with him (underhanded yes, but the gloves are
>     off) and we could arrive with the toque which has been modified to
>     read: REAL LIES or REAL BETRAYAL (that's still the plan, isn't
>     it?).  I have a pair of Liberal socks which I no longer need.
>     Gummie rats (sealed in plastic about 3oz.) can be purchased on
>     line.  I was thinking of sending one of the pair to Trudeau filled
>     with gummie rats, be happy to make up another one to give to Raj.
>
>     Here are the rats:
>     https://www.jellybelly.com/gummi-pet-rat/p/5148
>     <https://www.jellybelly.com/gummi-pet-rat/p/5148>
>
>     Personally not in favour of the coffin as it has been used to
>     death (!) for all kinds of causes but lots of signs, and a media
>     alert and facebooking etc. Plus it would be fun.
>
>     Happy to start up a "I will not vote for you again" petition at
>     all our upcoming events, give a focus to our summer festival tables.
>
>     And, my home will be open for a meeting this Monday at 7 pm for
>     anyone who wants to come to plan the next few months.
>
>     Onward!
>     Sharon
>
>     On Fri, Feb 3, 2017 at 7:34 PM, arthurd23 arthurd23
>     <arthurd23 at bell.net <mailto:arthurd23 at bell.net>> wrote:
>
>         Lots of letters to the editor in The Star and Globe.
>
>         There was also a consensus with almost all of them castigating
>         Trudeau.
>
>         One opposing view - The Record editorial. Surprise!!!
>
>         Do we have some letters being sent to The Record?
>
>         Dave A
>
>>         ---------- Original Message ----------
>>         From: Donald Fraser <donaldafraser at gmail.com
>>         <mailto:donaldafraser at gmail.com>>
>>         Date: February 3, 2017 at 12:15 PM
>>
>>
>>         I'll pick the negative one ... just love a scrap ... so
>>         here's my response
>>
>>         ======================================================
>>
>>
>>
>>         Dear Editor,
>>
>>
>>           Re: The political fallout of breaking a promiseby Joanna
>>           Smith_Feb3_2017
>>
>>         Ms Smith asks, “But what of the majority of Canadians? Do
>>         they care? Does it matter?” in reference to Electoral Reform
>>         (ER).
>>
>>         It matters. In our system of First Past the Post (FPTP),
>>         votes cast for a Green candidate, for example, who loses are
>>         useless. The Planet-caring, environmentally conscious,
>>         politically aware voters in the particular riding have no say
>>         in Ottawa. A certain percentage of all Canadians want Green
>>         objectives to be part of the laws of Canada.
>>
>>         It matters because these environmentalists should have their
>>         say in the structure of government. In a proportional system,
>>         for instance, every vote counts to obtain the same percentage
>>         of seats for a party as the party received in the national
>>         vote count.
>>
>>         It matters because they may not vote in the next election,
>>         knowing that their votes won’t count.
>>
>>         I matters because, due to discouragement, they may cease to
>>         engage in the political discussion and the environment will
>>         suffer for it.
>>
>>         Later Smith states, “Then there is a much larger group that
>>         knows little and cares less about ER” in reference to the
>>         Canadian electorate at large.
>>
>>         “... knows little and cares less ... “ is simply cause and
>>         effect. Unfortunately, it is difficult to excite the
>>         electorate about ER possibilities when they “know little”.
>>         Attempts to educate the public about ER are generally
>>         regarded as “election activity” which annoys citizens between
>>         elections. To be fair there is a small percentage which does
>>         respond with enthusiasm.
>>
>>         New Zealand (NZ) solved the problem by having a trial run at
>>         Mixed Member PR (MMPR) for four terms. The electorate was
>>         educated by experience and when consulted after the trial,
>>         voted for MMPR over the former FPTP system. Their experience
>>         demonstrates that an educated public will choose a
>>         proportional alternative to our antiquated and unfair FPTP
>>         which wastes the votes of any citizen whose local candidate
>>         did not win in their riding.
>>
>>         Germany has practiced MMPR since WW2. The resulting stable
>>         form of coalition government has allowed Germans to become
>>         the master long term planners we recognize them for. They
>>         avoid the 'Policy Pendulum' in which false majority
>>         governments cancel, at great expense to the taxpayer, the
>>         projects of the preceding government. Rather each new
>>         government improves and supports policies of the previous
>>         government.
>>
>>         Yours Truly,
>>
>>         Donald A Fraser,
>>
>>         184 Forsyth Drive,
>>
>>         Waterloo, Ontario,
>>
>>         N2L-1A2
>>
>>
>>         519-576-9210 <tel:%28519%29%20576-9210>
>>
>>
>>
>>         On 2 February 2017 at 23:02, Sharon Sommerville <
>>         sharonsommerville at gmail.com
>>         <mailto:sharonsommerville at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>>             Hello FairVoting Friends,
>>
>>             Two great articles in today's Record for us to respond to:
>>
>>             http://www. therecord.com/news-
>>             story/7100196-the-political- fallout-of-breaking-a-promise/
>>
>>             http://www. therecord.com/ opinion-story/7098054-d-
>>             amato- broken-promise-may-haunt- liberals/
>>
>>             We should capitalize on these articles with letters to
>>             the editor. A couple of letters in response to each
>>             letter would be wonderful. Any number would be great.
>>
>>             Have sent the request out to our larger discussion list
>>             as some new names would be helpful!
>>
>>             Let me know if you can take either of these on.
>>
>>             With thanks,
>>             Sharon
>>
>>
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