[fvc-wat-disc] Letters to the Editor Needed

Fri Feb 3 22:59:30 EST 2017

I recognize LIES is shorter and likely doable, but if it is possible, I do
like betrayal better.

On Fri, Feb 3, 2017 at 10:52 PM, Jon Bathmaker <jon.bathmaker at gmail.com>
wrote:

> I think we should choose the one that makes them look the worst.  With
> that criterion BETRAYAL seems to be the winner.
>
> Best,
> Jon
>
> On 2/3/2017 10:45 PM, Anita Nickerson wrote:
>
> Which do you like better for the hat?
>
> REAL LIES or REAL BETRAYAL
>
> On Fri, Feb 3, 2017 at 10:30 PM, Sharon Sommerville <
> sharonsommerville at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hello All,
>>
>> We are going to have to do a lot of writing in the coming weeks.  Please
>> remember that you don't have to write the letters, another person can write
>> if you can submit or you can write a letter and have someone else submit
>> it.  We need writers and submitters.
>>
>> Thanks to Donald for an excellent response to Ms. Smith's article.  We
>> need one more.  Can someone volunteer to write and or submit a response to
>> Ms. Smith's article?  It would need to be submitted by Sunday evening
>>
>> We need a supportive letter for Luisa's article.  Is there someone who
>> can write/submit it.  This one should be easy. Again, it should be in by
>> Sunday pm.
>>
>> We need at least two responses to today's editorial.  One should be from
>> FVC-WR which I can draft and send round to our bd. members so we need one
>> more.  Any takers?  Again, you can write but not submit or offer to submit
>> but not write.
>>
>> A march to Raj's office from KCH would be doable.  Someone could book an
>> appointment with him (underhanded yes, but the gloves are off) and we could
>> arrive with the toque which has been modified to read: REAL LIES or REAL
>> BETRAYAL (that's still the plan, isn't it?).  I have a pair of Liberal
>> socks which I no longer need.  Gummie rats (sealed in plastic about 3oz.)
>> can be purchased on line.  I was thinking of sending one of the pair to
>> Trudeau filled with gummie rats, be happy to make up another one to give to
>> Raj.
>>
>> Here are the rats:
>> https://www.jellybelly.com/gummi-pet-rat/p/5148
>>
>> Personally not in favour of the coffin as it has been used to death (!)
>> for all kinds of causes but lots of signs, and a media alert and
>> facebooking etc. Plus it would be fun.
>>
>> Happy to start up a "I will not vote for you again" petition at all our
>> upcoming events, give a focus to our summer festival tables.
>>
>> And, my home will be open for a meeting this Monday at 7 pm for anyone
>> who wants to come to plan the next few months.
>>
>> Onward!
>> Sharon
>>
>> On Fri, Feb 3, 2017 at 7:34 PM, arthurd23 arthurd23 <arthurd23 at bell.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Lots of letters to the editor in The Star and Globe.
>>>
>>> There was also a consensus with almost all of them castigating Trudeau.
>>>
>>> One opposing view - The Record editorial. Surprise!!!
>>>
>>> Do we have some letters being sent to The Record?
>>>
>>> Dave A
>>>
>>> ---------- Original Message ----------
>>> From: Donald Fraser <donaldafraser at gmail.com>
>>> Date: February 3, 2017 at 12:15 PM
>>>
>>>
>>> I'll pick the negative one ... just love a scrap ... so here's my
>>> response
>>>
>>> ======================================================
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Dear Editor,
>>>
>>>
>>> Re: The political fallout of breaking a promise by Joanna
>>> Smith_Feb3_2017
>>>
>>> Ms Smith asks, “But what of the majority of Canadians? Do they care?
>>> Does it matter?” in reference to Electoral Reform (ER).
>>>
>>> It matters. In our system of First Past the Post (FPTP), votes cast for
>>> a Green candidate, for example, who loses are useless. The Planet-caring,
>>> environmentally conscious, politically aware voters in the particular
>>> riding have no say in Ottawa. A certain percentage of all Canadians
>>> want Green objectives to be part of the laws of Canada.
>>>
>>> It matters because these environmentalists should have their say in the
>>> structure of government. In a proportional system, for instance, every vote
>>> counts to obtain the same percentage of seats for a party as the party
>>> received in the national vote count.
>>>
>>> It matters because they may not vote in the next election, knowing that
>>> their votes won’t count.
>>>
>>> I matters because, due to discouragement, they may cease to engage in
>>> the political discussion and the environment will suffer for it.
>>>
>>> Later Smith states, “Then there is a much larger group that knows little
>>> and cares less about ER” in reference to the Canadian electorate at large.
>>>
>>> “... knows little and cares less ... “ is simply cause and effect.
>>> Unfortunately, it is difficult to excite the electorate about ER
>>> possibilities when they “know little”. Attempts to educate the public about
>>> ER are generally regarded as “election activity” which annoys citizens
>>> between elections. To be fair there is a small percentage which does
>>> respond with enthusiasm.
>>>
>>> New Zealand (NZ) solved the problem by having a trial run at Mixed
>>> Member PR (MMPR) for four terms. The electorate was educated by experience
>>> and when consulted after the trial, voted for MMPR over the former FPTP
>>> system. Their experience demonstrates that an educated public will choose a
>>> proportional alternative to our antiquated and unfair FPTP which wastes the
>>> votes of any citizen whose local candidate did not win in their riding.
>>>
>>> Germany has practiced MMPR since WW2. The resulting stable form of
>>> coalition government has allowed Germans to become the master long term
>>> planners we recognize them for. They avoid the 'Policy Pendulum' in which
>>> false majority governments cancel, at great expense to the taxpayer, the
>>> projects of the preceding government. Rather each new government improves
>>> and supports policies of the previous government.
>>>
>>> Yours Truly,
>>>
>>> Donald A Fraser,
>>>
>>> 184 Forsyth Drive,
>>>
>>> Waterloo, Ontario,
>>>
>>> N2L-1A2
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 519-576-9210 <%28519%29%20576-9210>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 2 February 2017 at 23:02, Sharon Sommerville <
>>> sharonsommerville at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hello FairVoting Friends,
>>>
>>> Two great articles in today's Record for us to respond to:
>>>
>>> http://www. therecord.com/news- story/7100196-the-political-
>>> fallout-of-breaking-a-promise/
>>>
>>> http://www. therecord.com/ opinion-story/7098054-d- amato-
>>> broken-promise-may-haunt- liberals/
>>>
>>> We should capitalize on these articles with letters to the editor. A
>>> couple of letters in response to each letter would be wonderful. Any number
>>> would be great.
>>>
>>> Have sent the request out to our larger discussion list as some new
>>> names would be helpful!
>>>
>>> Let me know if you can take either of these on.
>>>
>>> With thanks,
>>> Sharon
>>>
>>>
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