[fvc-wat-disc] Letters to the Editor Needed

Sat Feb 4 00:52:42 EST 2017

When we visit Raj, with a sock full of gummi rats and a toque that says
REAL BETRAYAL, we should also present him with the number of his
constituents that have contacted him about electoral reform.  Quite a few
more than the one person he told the folks from Council of Canadians.
Three Hundred and Fifty Five more people to be exact.

On Fri, Feb 3, 2017 at 11:21 PM, Anita Nickerson <anitann88 at gmail.com>
wrote:

> I agree, Don, except they've lied on so many fronts on this file. But
> sure, yes, betrayal.
>
> On Fri, Feb 3, 2017 at 11:10 PM, Donald Fraser <donaldafraser at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Breaking a promise, technically, is not a lie so long as one tells the
>> truth that one is breaking the promise ... betrayal or a synonym is better.
>>
>> On 3 February 2017 at 22:59, Jennifer Ross <2jennross at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I recognize LIES is shorter and likely doable, but if it is possible, I
>>> do like betrayal better.
>>>
>>> On Fri, Feb 3, 2017 at 10:52 PM, Jon Bathmaker <jon.bathmaker at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I think we should choose the one that makes them look the worst.  With
>>>> that criterion BETRAYAL seems to be the winner.
>>>>
>>>> Best,
>>>> Jon
>>>>
>>>> On 2/3/2017 10:45 PM, Anita Nickerson wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Which do you like better for the hat?
>>>>
>>>> REAL LIES or REAL BETRAYAL
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Feb 3, 2017 at 10:30 PM, Sharon Sommerville <
>>>> sharonsommerville at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hello All,
>>>>>
>>>>> We are going to have to do a lot of writing in the coming weeks.
>>>>> Please remember that you don't have to write the letters, another person
>>>>> can write if you can submit or you can write a letter and have someone else
>>>>> submit it.  We need writers and submitters.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks to Donald for an excellent response to Ms. Smith's article.  We
>>>>> need one more.  Can someone volunteer to write and or submit a response to
>>>>> Ms. Smith's article?  It would need to be submitted by Sunday evening
>>>>>
>>>>> We need a supportive letter for Luisa's article.  Is there someone who
>>>>> can write/submit it.  This one should be easy. Again, it should be in by
>>>>> Sunday pm.
>>>>>
>>>>> We need at least two responses to today's editorial.  One should be
>>>>> from FVC-WR which I can draft and send round to our bd. members so we need
>>>>> one more.  Any takers?  Again, you can write but not submit or offer to
>>>>> submit but not write.
>>>>>
>>>>> A march to Raj's office from KCH would be doable.  Someone could book
>>>>> an appointment with him (underhanded yes, but the gloves are off) and we
>>>>> could arrive with the toque which has been modified to read: REAL LIES or
>>>>> REAL BETRAYAL (that's still the plan, isn't it?).  I have a pair of Liberal
>>>>> socks which I no longer need.  Gummie rats (sealed in plastic about 3oz.)
>>>>> can be purchased on line.  I was thinking of sending one of the pair to
>>>>> Trudeau filled with gummie rats, be happy to make up another one to give to
>>>>> Raj.
>>>>>
>>>>> Here are the rats:
>>>>> https://www.jellybelly.com/gummi-pet-rat/p/5148
>>>>>
>>>>> Personally not in favour of the coffin as it has been used to death
>>>>> (!) for all kinds of causes but lots of signs, and a media alert and
>>>>> facebooking etc. Plus it would be fun.
>>>>>
>>>>> Happy to start up a "I will not vote for you again" petition at all
>>>>> our upcoming events, give a focus to our summer festival tables.
>>>>>
>>>>> And, my home will be open for a meeting this Monday at 7 pm for anyone
>>>>> who wants to come to plan the next few months.
>>>>>
>>>>> Onward!
>>>>> Sharon
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, Feb 3, 2017 at 7:34 PM, arthurd23 arthurd23 <
>>>>> arthurd23 at bell.net> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Lots of letters to the editor in The Star and Globe.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> There was also a consensus with almost all of them castigating
>>>>>> Trudeau.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> One opposing view - The Record editorial. Surprise!!!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Do we have some letters being sent to The Record?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Dave A
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ---------- Original Message ----------
>>>>>> From: Donald Fraser <donaldafraser at gmail.com>
>>>>>> Date: February 3, 2017 at 12:15 PM
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'll pick the negative one ... just love a scrap ... so here's my
>>>>>> response
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ======================================================
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Dear Editor,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Re: The political fallout of breaking a promise by Joanna
>>>>>> Smith_Feb3_2017
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Ms Smith asks, “But what of the majority of Canadians? Do they care?
>>>>>> Does it matter?” in reference to Electoral Reform (ER).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It matters. In our system of First Past the Post (FPTP), votes cast
>>>>>> for a Green candidate, for example, who loses are useless. The
>>>>>> Planet-caring, environmentally conscious, politically aware voters in the
>>>>>> particular riding have no say in Ottawa. A certain percentage of all
>>>>>> Canadians want Green objectives to be part of the laws of Canada.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It matters because these environmentalists should have their say in
>>>>>> the structure of government. In a proportional system, for instance, every
>>>>>> vote counts to obtain the same percentage of seats for a party as the party
>>>>>> received in the national vote count.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It matters because they may not vote in the next election, knowing
>>>>>> that their votes won’t count.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I matters because, due to discouragement, they may cease to engage in
>>>>>> the political discussion and the environment will suffer for it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Later Smith states, “Then there is a much larger group that knows
>>>>>> little and cares less about ER” in reference to the Canadian electorate at
>>>>>> large.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> “... knows little and cares less ... “ is simply cause and effect.
>>>>>> Unfortunately, it is difficult to excite the electorate about ER
>>>>>> possibilities when they “know little”. Attempts to educate the public about
>>>>>> ER are generally regarded as “election activity” which annoys citizens
>>>>>> between elections. To be fair there is a small percentage which does
>>>>>> respond with enthusiasm.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> New Zealand (NZ) solved the problem by having a trial run at Mixed
>>>>>> Member PR (MMPR) for four terms. The electorate was educated by experience
>>>>>> and when consulted after the trial, voted for MMPR over the former FPTP
>>>>>> system. Their experience demonstrates that an educated public will choose a
>>>>>> proportional alternative to our antiquated and unfair FPTP which wastes the
>>>>>> votes of any citizen whose local candidate did not win in their riding.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Germany has practiced MMPR since WW2. The resulting stable form of
>>>>>> coalition government has allowed Germans to become the master long term
>>>>>> planners we recognize them for. They avoid the 'Policy Pendulum' in which
>>>>>> false majority governments cancel, at great expense to the taxpayer, the
>>>>>> projects of the preceding government. Rather each new government improves
>>>>>> and supports policies of the previous government.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yours Truly,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Donald A Fraser,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 184 Forsyth Drive,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Waterloo, Ontario,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> N2L-1A2
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 519-576-9210 <%28519%29%20576-9210>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 2 February 2017 at 23:02, Sharon Sommerville <
>>>>>> sharonsommerville at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hello FairVoting Friends,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Two great articles in today's Record for us to respond to:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://www. therecord.com/news- story/7100196-the-political-
>>>>>> fallout-of-breaking-a-promise/
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://www. therecord.com/ opinion-story/7098054-d- amato-
>>>>>> broken-promise-may-haunt- liberals/
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We should capitalize on these articles with letters to the editor. A
>>>>>> couple of letters in response to each letter would be wonderful. Any number
>>>>>> would be great.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Have sent the request out to our larger discussion list as some new
>>>>>> names would be helpful!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Let me know if you can take either of these on.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> With thanks,
>>>>>> Sharon
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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