[fvc-wat-disc] New T-shirts need a snappy message

Sat Jul 22 20:07:24 EDT 2017

I get the idea of a question to promote discussion ... but we reach far
more people who will only read our message and never speak to us ... e.g.
when we are shopping, walking, etc. ... they need to get the message
without discussion.

On 22 July 2017 at 18:24, Jay Judkowitz <judkowitz at gmail.com> wrote:

> Works for me
>
> On Jul 22, 2017 3:37 PM, "David Dolson" <ddolson at golden.net> wrote:
>
>> I like it too. A variation would be to end it with "lacks", to make it
>> sound like a bad thing.
>>
>> ‎"What do 92 democracies have that Canada lacks?"
>>
>> -Dave
>> *From: *Sharon Sommerville
>> *Sent: *Saturday, July 22, 2017 2:17 PM
>> *To: *FVC Waterloo Region Discussion
>> *Reply To: *FVC Waterloo Region Discussion
>> *Subject: *Re: [fvc-wat-disc] New T-shirts need a snappy message
>>
>> Nice one Jay.
>>
>> S.
>>
>> On Sat, Jul 22, 2017 at 2:12 PM, Jay Judkowitz <judkowitz at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Sorry.  One more.  I liked the idea of a question to spur discussion.
>>>
>>> "What do 92 democracies have that Canada does not?"
>>>
>>> On Jul 22, 2017 2:03 PM, "Sharon Sommerville" <
>>> sharonsommerville at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hello Everyone,
>>>>
>>>> Below are the 14 suggestions so far, in the order in which they were
>>>> received:
>>>>
>>>> "Your vote should count"
>>>>
>>>> "40% votes
>>>> 60% seats
>>>> 100% power"
>>>>
>>>> True democracy should be
>>>>
>>>> fair representation for all.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>  "Want PR - don't trust a Liberal"
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Democracy is Representation - Fair Representation - Proportional
>>>> Representation
>>>>
>>>> Democracy: Fair, Proportional.
>>>>
>>>> Demand Representation: Fair‎ & Proportional.
>>>>
>>>> We want Representation: Fair‎ & Proportional.
>>>>
>>>> Vote to make your Vote Count
>>>>
>>>> vote for a candidate who supports PR in 2019
>>>>
>>>> Proportional is best for all voters.
>>>>
>>>> Vote much?
>>>> fairvote.ca
>>>>
>>>> Proportional Representation: No Taxation Without Representation
>>>>
>>>> "No Taxation without Proportional Representation" *   - the original
>>>> suggestion didn't have the "out" in "without".
>>>>
>>>> 39=54=100?
>>>>
>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------
>>>> ----------------------------------------------------------
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> We need a way to consider these excellent suggestions. We could use a
>>>> ranked ballot? :)  Send in your top 4,  we will compile them and look for a
>>>> majority! :)
>>>>
>>>> Other suggestions on the selection process are welcome.  The one above
>>>> is just a place to start.
>>>>
>>>> Also, revisions to any message are also welcome.  One thing to bear in
>>>> mind is that becuase we have to order by Tuesday, we need to make our
>>>> decision by Monday night.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks to everyone for their suggestions and comments, all well taken!
>>>> Hope to hear from you soon!
>>>>
>>>> Kind regards,
>>>> Sharon
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Jul 21, 2017 at 11:50 PM, Sharon Sommerville <
>>>> sharonsommerville at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi Evan,
>>>>>
>>>>> Rather excellent!
>>>>>
>>>>> Thank you!
>>>>>
>>>>> Sharon
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, Jul 21, 2017 at 9:07 AM, Evan Rosamond <erosamond at worldline.ca
>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> The best I  thought of is in the style of my favourite cartoonist Sid
>>>>>> Barron:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Vote much?
>>>>>> fairvote.ca
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 7/21/2017 8:09 AM, Sharon Sommerville wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Great ideas everyone!  Enjoyed reading all of them!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The sale ends on the 25th, which is the only way we can afford to
>>>>>> purchase the Tshirts.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Can we make a decision over the weekend?  How do we make a decision,
>>>>>> that is the question!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Have a great day,
>>>>>> Sharon
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Fri, Jul 21, 2017 at 1:40 AM, Jennifer Ross <2jennross at gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Heheh!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> But its a good idea, Cathy.  Maybe we can do that at our next
>>>>>>> discussion group?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Fri, Jul 21, 2017 at 1:33 AM, David Dolson <ddolson at golden.net>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I am brainstorming on the mailing list, which is why you are seeing
>>>>>>>> so many bad ideas from me :-)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> -Dave
>>>>>>>> *From: *Cathy Scott
>>>>>>>> *Sent: *Friday, July 21, 2017 3:14 AM
>>>>>>>> *To: *'FVC Waterloo Region Discussion'
>>>>>>>> *Reply To: *FVC Waterloo Region Discussion
>>>>>>>> *Subject: *Re: [fvc-wat-disc] New T-shirts need a snappy message
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> HI, All,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I have been keeping up with everyone’s responses about the t-shirt
>>>>>>>> wording and I wonder whether it would be helpful to have a ‘brainstorming’
>>>>>>>> session to come up with a catchy phrase.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I have found this method quite productive, and we have used it in
>>>>>>>> the past,  where we write down everyone’s words, phrases, concepts, ideas,
>>>>>>>> and use the results to focus and formulate a ‘catchy message’.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Cathy
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> *From:* fvc-wat-disc [mailto:fvc-wat-disc-bounces at l
>>>>>>>> istserv.thinkers.org] *On Behalf Of *Sharon Sommerville
>>>>>>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, July 19, 2017 11:10 PM
>>>>>>>> *To:* fvc-wat-disc at listserv.thinkers.org
>>>>>>>> *Subject:* [fvc-wat-disc] New T-shirts need a snappy message
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hello FairVoting Friends,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> We are thinking about ordering new FVC t-shirts and we need a
>>>>>>>> catchy message to put on them.  Any ideas?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The message should express our message of fairness and equality for
>>>>>>>> all voters in just a few words.  If you have any ideas or suggestions,
>>>>>>>> please let us know!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> With thanks,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Sharon
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> for FVC-WR
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
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