[fvc-wat-disc] New T-shirts need a snappy message

Jay Judkowitz judkowitz at gmail.com
Sat Jul 22 20:55:52 EDT 2017


"Proportional Representation" on the back?

On Jul 22, 2017 8:08 PM, "Donald Fraser" <donaldafraser at gmail.com> wrote:

> I get the idea of a question to promote discussion ... but we reach far
> more people who will only read our message and never speak to us ... e.g.
> when we are shopping, walking, etc. ... they need to get the message
> without discussion.
>
> On 22 July 2017 at 18:24, Jay Judkowitz <judkowitz at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Works for me
>>
>> On Jul 22, 2017 3:37 PM, "David Dolson" <ddolson at golden.net> wrote:
>>
>>> I like it too. A variation would be to end it with "lacks", to make it
>>> sound like a bad thing.
>>>
>>> ‎"What do 92 democracies have that Canada lacks?"
>>>
>>> -Dave
>>> *From: *Sharon Sommerville
>>> *Sent: *Saturday, July 22, 2017 2:17 PM
>>> *To: *FVC Waterloo Region Discussion
>>> *Reply To: *FVC Waterloo Region Discussion
>>> *Subject: *Re: [fvc-wat-disc] New T-shirts need a snappy message
>>>
>>> Nice one Jay.
>>>
>>> S.
>>>
>>> On Sat, Jul 22, 2017 at 2:12 PM, Jay Judkowitz <judkowitz at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Sorry.  One more.  I liked the idea of a question to spur discussion.
>>>>
>>>> "What do 92 democracies have that Canada does not?"
>>>>
>>>> On Jul 22, 2017 2:03 PM, "Sharon Sommerville" <
>>>> sharonsommerville at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hello Everyone,
>>>>>
>>>>> Below are the 14 suggestions so far, in the order in which they were
>>>>> received:
>>>>>
>>>>> "Your vote should count"
>>>>>
>>>>> "40% votes
>>>>> 60% seats
>>>>> 100% power"
>>>>>
>>>>> True democracy should be
>>>>>
>>>>> fair representation for all.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>  "Want PR - don't trust a Liberal"
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Democracy is Representation - Fair Representation - Proportional
>>>>> Representation
>>>>>
>>>>> Democracy: Fair, Proportional.
>>>>>
>>>>> Demand Representation: Fair‎ & Proportional.
>>>>>
>>>>> We want Representation: Fair‎ & Proportional.
>>>>>
>>>>> Vote to make your Vote Count
>>>>>
>>>>> vote for a candidate who supports PR in 2019
>>>>>
>>>>> Proportional is best for all voters.
>>>>>
>>>>> Vote much?
>>>>> fairvote.ca
>>>>>
>>>>> Proportional Representation: No Taxation Without Representation
>>>>>
>>>>> "No Taxation without Proportional Representation" *   - the original
>>>>> suggestion didn't have the "out" in "without".
>>>>>
>>>>> 39=54=100?
>>>>>
>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>> ----------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> We need a way to consider these excellent suggestions. We could use a
>>>>> ranked ballot? :)  Send in your top 4,  we will compile them and look for a
>>>>> majority! :)
>>>>>
>>>>> Other suggestions on the selection process are welcome.  The one above
>>>>> is just a place to start.
>>>>>
>>>>> Also, revisions to any message are also welcome.  One thing to bear in
>>>>> mind is that becuase we have to order by Tuesday, we need to make our
>>>>> decision by Monday night.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks to everyone for their suggestions and comments, all well
>>>>> taken!  Hope to hear from you soon!
>>>>>
>>>>> Kind regards,
>>>>> Sharon
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, Jul 21, 2017 at 11:50 PM, Sharon Sommerville <
>>>>> sharonsommerville at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Evan,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Rather excellent!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thank you!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sharon
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Fri, Jul 21, 2017 at 9:07 AM, Evan Rosamond <
>>>>>> erosamond at worldline.ca> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The best I  thought of is in the style of my favourite cartoonist
>>>>>>> Sid Barron:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Vote much?
>>>>>>> fairvote.ca
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 7/21/2017 8:09 AM, Sharon Sommerville wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Great ideas everyone!  Enjoyed reading all of them!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The sale ends on the 25th, which is the only way we can afford to
>>>>>>> purchase the Tshirts.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Can we make a decision over the weekend?  How do we make a decision,
>>>>>>> that is the question!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Have a great day,
>>>>>>> Sharon
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Fri, Jul 21, 2017 at 1:40 AM, Jennifer Ross <2jennross at gmail.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Heheh!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> But its a good idea, Cathy.  Maybe we can do that at our next
>>>>>>>> discussion group?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Fri, Jul 21, 2017 at 1:33 AM, David Dolson <ddolson at golden.net>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I am brainstorming on the mailing list, which is why you are
>>>>>>>>> seeing so many bad ideas from me :-)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> -Dave
>>>>>>>>> *From: *Cathy Scott
>>>>>>>>> *Sent: *Friday, July 21, 2017 3:14 AM
>>>>>>>>> *To: *'FVC Waterloo Region Discussion'
>>>>>>>>> *Reply To: *FVC Waterloo Region Discussion
>>>>>>>>> *Subject: *Re: [fvc-wat-disc] New T-shirts need a snappy message
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> HI, All,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I have been keeping up with everyone’s responses about the t-shirt
>>>>>>>>> wording and I wonder whether it would be helpful to have a ‘brainstorming’
>>>>>>>>> session to come up with a catchy phrase.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I have found this method quite productive, and we have used it in
>>>>>>>>> the past,  where we write down everyone’s words, phrases, concepts, ideas,
>>>>>>>>> and use the results to focus and formulate a ‘catchy message’.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Cathy
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> *From:* fvc-wat-disc [mailto:fvc-wat-disc-bounces at l
>>>>>>>>> istserv.thinkers.org] *On Behalf Of *Sharon Sommerville
>>>>>>>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, July 19, 2017 11:10 PM
>>>>>>>>> *To:* fvc-wat-disc at listserv.thinkers.org
>>>>>>>>> *Subject:* [fvc-wat-disc] New T-shirts need a snappy message
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hello FairVoting Friends,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> We are thinking about ordering new FVC t-shirts and we need a
>>>>>>>>> catchy message to put on them.  Any ideas?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The message should express our message of fairness and equality
>>>>>>>>> for all voters in just a few words.  If you have any ideas or suggestions,
>>>>>>>>> please let us know!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> With thanks,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Sharon
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> for FVC-WR
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>> No other Western democratic country concentrates as much political
>>>>>>>> power in the hands of one person as Canada does with her Prime
>>>>>>>> Minister.
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