[fvc-wat-disc] New T-shirts need a snappy message
Jennifer Ross
2jennross at gmail.com
Sun Jul 23 12:37:24 EDT 2017
Okay, we have a fantastic selection. Let's each pick our preferred
T-shirt, shall we?
1. True democracy should be - fair representation for all.
2. Want PR - don't trust a Liberal
3. Democracy is Representation - Fair Representation - Proportional
Representation
4. Democracy: Fair, Proportional.
5. Demand Representation: Fair & Proportional.
6. We want Representation: Fair & Proportional.
7. Vote to make your Vote Count
8. Proportional is best for all voters.
9. Vote much? - fairvote.ca
10. Proportional Representation: No Taxation Without Representation
11. No Taxation without Proportional Representation Edited this one
because we don't want to promise the moon!
12. 39=54=100?
13. What do 92 democracies have that Canada lacks?
Okay, now that I've done this, I want a ranked ballot because I really like
several of them.
My picks: 5, 7, 12, 13
Jenn
On Sat, Jul 22, 2017 at 8:55 PM, Jay Judkowitz <judkowitz at gmail.com> wrote:
> "Proportional Representation" on the back?
>
> On Jul 22, 2017 8:08 PM, "Donald Fraser" <donaldafraser at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I get the idea of a question to promote discussion ... but we reach far
>> more people who will only read our message and never speak to us ... e.g.
>> when we are shopping, walking, etc. ... they need to get the message
>> without discussion.
>>
>> On 22 July 2017 at 18:24, Jay Judkowitz <judkowitz at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Works for me
>>>
>>> On Jul 22, 2017 3:37 PM, "David Dolson" <ddolson at golden.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I like it too. A variation would be to end it with "lacks", to make it
>>>> sound like a bad thing.
>>>>
>>>> "What do 92 democracies have that Canada lacks?"
>>>>
>>>> -Dave
>>>> *From: *Sharon Sommerville
>>>> *Sent: *Saturday, July 22, 2017 2:17 PM
>>>> *To: *FVC Waterloo Region Discussion
>>>> *Reply To: *FVC Waterloo Region Discussion
>>>> *Subject: *Re: [fvc-wat-disc] New T-shirts need a snappy message
>>>>
>>>> Nice one Jay.
>>>>
>>>> S.
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, Jul 22, 2017 at 2:12 PM, Jay Judkowitz <judkowitz at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Sorry. One more. I liked the idea of a question to spur discussion.
>>>>>
>>>>> "What do 92 democracies have that Canada does not?"
>>>>>
>>>>> On Jul 22, 2017 2:03 PM, "Sharon Sommerville" <
>>>>> sharonsommerville at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hello Everyone,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Below are the 14 suggestions so far, in the order in which they were
>>>>>> received:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Your vote should count"
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "40% votes
>>>>>> 60% seats
>>>>>> 100% power"
>>>>>>
>>>>>> True democracy should be
>>>>>>
>>>>>> fair representation for all.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Want PR - don't trust a Liberal"
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Democracy is Representation - Fair Representation - Proportional
>>>>>> Representation
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Democracy: Fair, Proportional.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Demand Representation: Fair & Proportional.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We want Representation: Fair & Proportional.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Vote to make your Vote Count
>>>>>>
>>>>>> vote for a candidate who supports PR in 2019
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Proportional is best for all voters.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Vote much?
>>>>>> fairvote.ca
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Proportional Representation: No Taxation Without Representation
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "No Taxation without Proportional Representation" * - the original
>>>>>> suggestion didn't have the "out" in "without".
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 39=54=100?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>> ----------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We need a way to consider these excellent suggestions. We could use a
>>>>>> ranked ballot? :) Send in your top 4, we will compile them and look for a
>>>>>> majority! :)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Other suggestions on the selection process are welcome. The one
>>>>>> above is just a place to start.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Also, revisions to any message are also welcome. One thing to bear
>>>>>> in mind is that becuase we have to order by Tuesday, we need to make our
>>>>>> decision by Monday night.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks to everyone for their suggestions and comments, all well
>>>>>> taken! Hope to hear from you soon!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Kind regards,
>>>>>> Sharon
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Fri, Jul 21, 2017 at 11:50 PM, Sharon Sommerville <
>>>>>> sharonsommerville at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi Evan,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Rather excellent!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thank you!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Sharon
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Fri, Jul 21, 2017 at 9:07 AM, Evan Rosamond <
>>>>>>> erosamond at worldline.ca> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The best I thought of is in the style of my favourite cartoonist
>>>>>>>> Sid Barron:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Vote much?
>>>>>>>> fairvote.ca
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 7/21/2017 8:09 AM, Sharon Sommerville wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Great ideas everyone! Enjoyed reading all of them!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The sale ends on the 25th, which is the only way we can afford to
>>>>>>>> purchase the Tshirts.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Can we make a decision over the weekend? How do we make a
>>>>>>>> decision, that is the question!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Have a great day,
>>>>>>>> Sharon
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Fri, Jul 21, 2017 at 1:40 AM, Jennifer Ross <2jennross at gmail.com
>>>>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Heheh!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> But its a good idea, Cathy. Maybe we can do that at our next
>>>>>>>>> discussion group?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Jul 21, 2017 at 1:33 AM, David Dolson <ddolson at golden.net>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I am brainstorming on the mailing list, which is why you are
>>>>>>>>>> seeing so many bad ideas from me :-)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> -Dave
>>>>>>>>>> *From: *Cathy Scott
>>>>>>>>>> *Sent: *Friday, July 21, 2017 3:14 AM
>>>>>>>>>> *To: *'FVC Waterloo Region Discussion'
>>>>>>>>>> *Reply To: *FVC Waterloo Region Discussion
>>>>>>>>>> *Subject: *Re: [fvc-wat-disc] New T-shirts need a snappy message
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> HI, All,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I have been keeping up with everyone’s responses about the
>>>>>>>>>> t-shirt wording and I wonder whether it would be helpful to have a
>>>>>>>>>> ‘brainstorming’ session to come up with a catchy phrase.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I have found this method quite productive, and we have used it in
>>>>>>>>>> the past, where we write down everyone’s words, phrases, concepts, ideas,
>>>>>>>>>> and use the results to focus and formulate a ‘catchy message’.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Cathy
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> *From:* fvc-wat-disc [mailto:fvc-wat-disc-bounces at l
>>>>>>>>>> istserv.thinkers.org] *On Behalf Of *Sharon Sommerville
>>>>>>>>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, July 19, 2017 11:10 PM
>>>>>>>>>> *To:* fvc-wat-disc at listserv.thinkers.org
>>>>>>>>>> *Subject:* [fvc-wat-disc] New T-shirts need a snappy message
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Hello FairVoting Friends,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> We are thinking about ordering new FVC t-shirts and we need a
>>>>>>>>>> catchy message to put on them. Any ideas?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> The message should express our message of fairness and equality
>>>>>>>>>> for all voters in just a few words. If you have any ideas or suggestions,
>>>>>>>>>> please let us know!
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> With thanks,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Sharon
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> for FVC-WR
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
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