[fvc-wat-disc] New T-shirts need a snappy message
Cathy Scott
cathy.scottfree at gmail.com
Sun Jul 23 14:53:42 EDT 2017
I like # 14. Would it go on the back of the t-shirt so it would be more readable?
Cathy
From: fvc-wat-disc [mailto:fvc-wat-disc-bounces at listserv.thinkers.org] On Behalf Of Jennifer Ross
Sent: Sunday, July 23, 2017 2:09 PM
To: Donald Fraser
Cc: FVC Waterloo Region Discussion
Subject: Re: [fvc-wat-disc] New T-shirts need a snappy message
Sorry, Donald!
I kind of missed it. Well, I didn't think it was for a T-shirt for some reason.
On Sun, Jul 23, 2017 at 2:06 PM, Donald Fraser <donaldafraser at gmail.com> wrote:
OK mine didn't get into the list, ... I like it because it's informative if not catchy, so I'll give it number 14
14,9,6
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On 23 July 2017 at 13:55, Donald Fraser <donaldafraser at gmail.com> wrote:
I didn't want to appear dumb but now I have to admit it ... I think the following refers to the objections of the 13 colonies to Mother England ... "No taxation without representation" ... I remember from American history in SS ... but I don't think the average voter would ... catchy but goes over the heads of too many.
"No Taxation with Proportional Representation"
On 23 July 2017 at 12:37, Jennifer Ross <2jennross at gmail.com> wrote:
Okay, we have a fantastic selection. Let's each pick our preferred T-shirt, shall we?
1. True democracy should be - fair representation for all.
2. Want PR - don't trust a Liberal
3. Democracy is Representation - Fair Representation - Proportional Representation
4. Democracy: Fair, Proportional.
5. Demand Representation: Fair & Proportional.
6. We want Representation: Fair & Proportional.
7. Vote to make your Vote Count
8. Proportional is best for all voters.
9. Vote much? - fairvote.ca
10. Proportional Representation: No Taxation Without Representation
11. No Taxation without Proportional Representation Edited this one because we don't want to promise the moon!
12. 39=54=100?
13. What do 92 democracies have that Canada lacks?
Okay, now that I've done this, I want a ranked ballot because I really like several of them.
My picks: 5, 7, 12, 13
Jenn
On Sat, Jul 22, 2017 at 8:55 PM, Jay Judkowitz <judkowitz at gmail.com> wrote:
"Proportional Representation" on the back?
On Jul 22, 2017 8:08 PM, "Donald Fraser" <donaldafraser at gmail.com> wrote:
I get the idea of a question to promote discussion ... but we reach far more people who will only read our message and never speak to us ... e.g. when we are shopping, walking, etc. ... they need to get the message without discussion.
On 22 July 2017 at 18:24, Jay Judkowitz <judkowitz at gmail.com> wrote:
Works for me
On Jul 22, 2017 3:37 PM, "David Dolson" <ddolson at golden.net> wrote:
I like it too. A variation would be to end it with "lacks", to make it sound like a bad thing.
"What do 92 democracies have that Canada lacks?"
-Dave
From: Sharon Sommerville
Sent: Saturday, July 22, 2017 2:17 PM
To: FVC Waterloo Region Discussion
Reply To: FVC Waterloo Region Discussion
Subject: Re: [fvc-wat-disc] New T-shirts need a snappy message
Nice one Jay.
S.
On Sat, Jul 22, 2017 at 2:12 PM, Jay Judkowitz <judkowitz at gmail.com> wrote:
Sorry. One more. I liked the idea of a question to spur discussion.
"What do 92 democracies have that Canada does not?"
On Jul 22, 2017 2:03 PM, "Sharon Sommerville" <sharonsommerville at gmail.com> wrote:
Hello Everyone,
Below are the 14 suggestions so far, in the order in which they were received:
"Your vote should count"
"40% votes
60% seats
100% power"
True democracy should be
fair representation for all.
"Want PR - don't trust a Liberal"
Democracy is Representation - Fair Representation - Proportional Representation
Democracy: Fair, Proportional.
Demand Representation: Fair & Proportional.
We want Representation: Fair & Proportional.
Vote to make your Vote Count
vote for a candidate who supports PR in 2019
Proportional is best for all voters.
Vote much?
<http://fairvote.ca/> fairvote.ca
Proportional Representation: No Taxation Without Representation
"No Taxation without Proportional Representation" * - the original suggestion didn't have the "out" in "without".
39=54=100?
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We need a way to consider these excellent suggestions. We could use a ranked ballot? :) Send in your top 4, we will compile them and look for a majority! :)
Other suggestions on the selection process are welcome. The one above is just a place to start.
Also, revisions to any message are also welcome. One thing to bear in mind is that becuase we have to order by Tuesday, we need to make our decision by Monday night.
Thanks to everyone for their suggestions and comments, all well taken! Hope to hear from you soon!
Kind regards,
Sharon
On Fri, Jul 21, 2017 at 11:50 PM, Sharon Sommerville <sharonsommerville at gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Evan,
Rather excellent!
Thank you!
Sharon
On Fri, Jul 21, 2017 at 9:07 AM, Evan Rosamond <erosamond at worldline.ca> wrote:
The best I thought of is in the style of my favourite cartoonist Sid Barron:
Vote much?
fairvote.ca
On 7/21/2017 8:09 AM, Sharon Sommerville wrote:
Great ideas everyone! Enjoyed reading all of them!
The sale ends on the 25th, which is the only way we can afford to purchase the Tshirts.
Can we make a decision over the weekend? How do we make a decision, that is the question!
Have a great day,
Sharon
On Fri, Jul 21, 2017 at 1:40 AM, Jennifer Ross <2jennross at gmail.com> wrote:
Heheh!
But its a good idea, Cathy. Maybe we can do that at our next discussion group?
On Fri, Jul 21, 2017 at 1:33 AM, David Dolson <ddolson at golden.net> wrote:
I am brainstorming on the mailing list, which is why you are seeing so many bad ideas from me :-)
-Dave
From: Cathy Scott
Sent: Friday, July 21, 2017 3:14 AM
To: 'FVC Waterloo Region Discussion'
Reply To: FVC Waterloo Region Discussion
Subject: Re: [fvc-wat-disc] New T-shirts need a snappy message
HI, All,
I have been keeping up with everyone’s responses about the t-shirt wording and I wonder whether it would be helpful to have a ‘brainstorming’ session to come up with a catchy phrase.
I have found this method quite productive, and we have used it in the past, where we write down everyone’s words, phrases, concepts, ideas, and use the results to focus and formulate a ‘catchy message’.
Cathy
From: fvc-wat-disc [mailto:fvc-wat-disc-bounces at listserv.thinkers.org] On Behalf Of Sharon Sommerville
Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2017 11:10 PM
To: fvc-wat-disc at listserv.thinkers.org
Subject: [fvc-wat-disc] New T-shirts need a snappy message
Hello FairVoting Friends,
We are thinking about ordering new FVC t-shirts and we need a catchy message to put on them. Any ideas?
The message should express our message of fairness and equality for all voters in just a few words. If you have any ideas or suggestions, please let us know!
With thanks,
Sharon
for FVC-WR
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